| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? 12:50 - Jul 24 with 14770 views | Mullet |
Will watch this with interest, as I think like Reform they will get a disproportionate amount of media attention.
However, I do wonder if MPs who defect should be made to hold an election immediately. If you are voted in as an MP for one party, then seems undemocratic to me to pivot to another party without a mandate. |  |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 17:36 - Jul 25 with 2356 views | lowhouseblue |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 12:38 - Jul 25 by ZapatasMoustache |
Different class/ideological coalition from the Greens. Polanski might win and that might ease a lot of socialists’ worries about Green nimbyism/parochialism (which is arguably a bit outdated anyway).
If this new party and the Greens had a non-compete agreement they’d probably get a combined 30% of the vote. |
it'll be nothing like 30% and essentially they're competing for the same group now - people who want to make a protest vote to the left of labour and aren't fussed about getting someone elected. they'll still be competing with gorgeous george's lot and what ever the cp now call themselves. they'll also get 'the muslim vote' people. in most constituencies they'll be marginal. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 06:36 - Jul 29 with 2219 views | BlueForYou |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 08:09 - Aug 1 with 1942 views | JammyDodgerrr |
It's certainly interesting how many mailing list sign ups they have but can't see myself going to vote for them. Corbyn is a terrible leader, and there's nothing to suggest(at this time) there will be any good leadership in it. The fact they will even have to vote on the name probably tells you what you need to know. Couple that with his stance on Ukraine and I can't be getting behind it. I'd be surprised if they pick up any large quantities of votes at all. |  |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 08:56 - Aug 1 with 1900 views | blueasfook |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 08:09 - Aug 1 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's certainly interesting how many mailing list sign ups they have but can't see myself going to vote for them. Corbyn is a terrible leader, and there's nothing to suggest(at this time) there will be any good leadership in it. The fact they will even have to vote on the name probably tells you what you need to know. Couple that with his stance on Ukraine and I can't be getting behind it. I'd be surprised if they pick up any large quantities of votes at all. |
We might still get that free broadband though. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 09:08 - Aug 1 with 1880 views | Trequartista |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:38 - Jul 31 by BlueForYou |
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Yes, that's the name of the party. |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:10 - Aug 1 with 1824 views | positivity |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:38 - Jul 31 by BlueForYou |
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good point, well made |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:16 - Aug 1 with 1794 views | lowhouseblue |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:10 - Aug 1 by positivity |
good point, well made |
to be honest, i thought he was rather hedging his bets - rather trying to have it both ways. | |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 11:12 - Aug 1 with 1736 views | J2BLUE |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 08:09 - Aug 1 by JammyDodgerrr |
It's certainly interesting how many mailing list sign ups they have but can't see myself going to vote for them. Corbyn is a terrible leader, and there's nothing to suggest(at this time) there will be any good leadership in it. The fact they will even have to vote on the name probably tells you what you need to know. Couple that with his stance on Ukraine and I can't be getting behind it. I'd be surprised if they pick up any large quantities of votes at all. |
Corbyn would be much better as an advisor to someone with his general social views but less dangerous to our national security.
Is he actually going to lead the party? Huge mistake if so. |  |
| "These middle class, perma-offended, virtue-signalling woke w@nkers have declared that the great unwashed are just one tasteless joke away from turning into fascists" - Jonathan Pie |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 18:00 - Oct 11 with 1306 views | J2BLUE |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 11:12 - Aug 1 by J2BLUE |
Corbyn would be much better as an advisor to someone with his general social views but less dangerous to our national security.
Is he actually going to lead the party? Huge mistake if so. |
Ms Sultana said Your Party would be "anti-imperialist" and withdraw from NATO - which goes further than Mr Corbyn's 2019 Labour manifesto.
https://news.sky.com/story/cor
Withdraw from NATO. Amazing. | |
| "These middle class, perma-offended, virtue-signalling woke w@nkers have declared that the great unwashed are just one tasteless joke away from turning into fascists" - Jonathan Pie |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 20:07 - Oct 11 with 1203 views | reusersfreekicks |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 14:24 - Jul 24 by blueasfook |
I can see Abbott and McDonnell going over. They will already have the 4 MPs that were part of Jezza's little back bench alliance. |
Quick Google shows McConnell has said he wouldn't do that. But hey don't let good info spoil a narrative pre formed |  | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 20:09 - Oct 11 with 1197 views | reusersfreekicks |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 18:00 - Oct 11 by J2BLUE |
Ms Sultana said Your Party would be "anti-imperialist" and withdraw from NATO - which goes further than Mr Corbyn's 2019 Labour manifesto.
https://news.sky.com/story/cor
Withdraw from NATO. Amazing. |
Yep bad mistake in current climate | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 20:47 - Oct 11 with 1147 views | BlueForYou |
Absolutely no idea how I have two blank posts on this thread..?? I have to agree 100% that any MP who decided to change party, should then be subject to by election. | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 22:55 - Oct 11 with 1080 views | reusersfreekicks |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 21:33 - Jul 24 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t think I’ll be touching them with a barge pole Mullers. Corbyn and Farage are two cheeks of the same arse. Both speak a populist language, both are anti-international organisations, anti any meaningful partnerships with neighbouring states. It’s a small and very interconnected world. We have to be ‘globalists’ and we have to have respected international orgs somehow trying to play peacemaker. Farage and Corbyn come at it from different ideological viewpoints, but would deliver the same result. They’d cut us off from the world, reduce opportunities and make us more isolated and poorer. |
Whatever you may think of Corbyn to put him in the same group as Farage is a bit far fetched. He's not running around stirring up hatred and division while filling his own coffers. | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 07:35 - Oct 12 with 965 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 22:55 - Oct 11 by reusersfreekicks |
Whatever you may think of Corbyn to put him in the same group as Farage is a bit far fetched. He's not running around stirring up hatred and division while filling his own coffers. |
In fairness he was happy to fill his coffers from money from Iranian state TV that platforms homophobes and holocaust deniers. Even makes GB news look tame. | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:23 - Nov 14 with 666 views | GlasgowBlue |
Meanwhile, they continue to parody the People's Front of Judea.
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:30 - Nov 14 with 641 views | cressi |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:23 - Nov 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Meanwhile, they continue to parody the People's Front of Judea.
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Well I'm voting for them, All this right wing wing hate and prejudice remember what happened to the Jews in the 2nd world war started by burning a few books. | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:38 - Nov 14 with 620 views | baxterbasics |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:30 - Nov 14 by cressi |
Well I'm voting for them, All this right wing wing hate and prejudice remember what happened to the Jews in the 2nd world war started by burning a few books. |
So what do you think will happen to Jews under the Islamo-Communist alliance that is "Your Party" in the highly unlikely event it ever got in power? |  |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:40 - Nov 14 with 613 views | reusersfreekicks |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:38 - Nov 14 by baxterbasics |
So what do you think will happen to Jews under the Islamo-Communist alliance that is "Your Party" in the highly unlikely event it ever got in power? |
Communist - laughable labelling.
Out of Trump dictionary | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:43 - Nov 14 with 619 views | TNBlue |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:23 - Nov 14 by GlasgowBlue |
Meanwhile, they continue to parody the People's Front of Judea.
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Has anyone checked Zarah Sultana's bank account? This is all hand-rubbingly fun to watch though! | | | |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 16:30 - Nov 14 with 568 views | Kropotkin123 |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 13:38 - Jul 24 by itfcjoe |
I struggle to see how the Greens really fit in, because they are more 'woke' [for want of a better word] than they are seemingly on top of 'green' issues.
I listened to an interview with their leader and none of it was about climate change and the like, it was all about the same sort of left issues that Corbyn/Sultana will be leading on now |
I think you owe it to yourself to put a bit more effort into finding an alternative word. It seems like discourse manipulation has been so effective that you can't use an appropriate word to describe what you actually want to talk about.
Originally, woke was used within Black American communities to describe awareness of racial prejudice and injustice. More recently, far-right populist movements have appropriated the word as a pejorative/insult to constrain discourse by dismissing ideas, people, or policies they oppose.
The way I read your usage is "I struggle to see how the Greens really fit in, because they are focusing more on social inclusivity than environmental issues". Feel free to correct that if you are trying to convey something different.
It was an interview, so were they asked about environmental issues? Or was the interviewer just focusing on these other issues? |  |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 16:41 - Nov 14 with 547 views | lowhouseblue |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 16:30 - Nov 14 by Kropotkin123 |
I think you owe it to yourself to put a bit more effort into finding an alternative word. It seems like discourse manipulation has been so effective that you can't use an appropriate word to describe what you actually want to talk about.
Originally, woke was used within Black American communities to describe awareness of racial prejudice and injustice. More recently, far-right populist movements have appropriated the word as a pejorative/insult to constrain discourse by dismissing ideas, people, or policies they oppose.
The way I read your usage is "I struggle to see how the Greens really fit in, because they are focusing more on social inclusivity than environmental issues". Feel free to correct that if you are trying to convey something different.
It was an interview, so were they asked about environmental issues? Or was the interviewer just focusing on these other issues? |
i think when people use it pejoratively they intend it to mean "a performative focus on social inclusivity to do with a narrow range of identity issues". | |
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 17:09 - Nov 14 with 512 views | Kropotkin123 |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 16:41 - Nov 14 by lowhouseblue |
i think when people use it pejoratively they intend it to mean "a performative focus on social inclusivity to do with a narrow range of identity issues". |
No, that is just what you see when the far-right are "dismantling liberals" on their highly curated college tours. It is used in a variety of ways.
For example, it was used to justify dismantling USAID. A quick search brings up the right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation pushing the story "How USAID Went Woke and Destroyed Itself". Now the US has lost a major component of its soft power. No reforming, no identifying what was critical, no assessing impact. Just withdrawn.
Another that came up in the same search was "‘Is it “woke” to care about the environment?’: how Trump’s cuts are dismantling global conservation work" by the guardian.
It is used by people in power to control discourses and enact political change. If you are happy to lap up the propaganda side of it, and ignore the policy side, that is your choice though. [Post edited 14 Nov 2025 17:14]
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 17:45 - Nov 14 with 479 views | GlasgowBlue |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 15:30 - Nov 14 by cressi |
Well I'm voting for them, All this right wing wing hate and prejudice remember what happened to the Jews in the 2nd world war started by burning a few books. |
If you're worried about "the Jews" then I would avoid voting for a party whose joint leader was in charge of Labour when they were found guilty of discrimination against their Jewish members by the EHRC.
"We have concluded that there were unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination for which the Labour Party is responsible."
https://www.equalityhumanright
And that is the most simplistic take on the origins of the holocaust I think i've ever read. "started by burning a few books". Dear God. [Post edited 14 Nov 2025 17:53]
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| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 17:55 - Nov 14 with 449 views | lowhouseblue |
| “Your party” by Corbyn x Sultana anyone going to vote for them? on 17:09 - Nov 14 by Kropotkin123 |
No, that is just what you see when the far-right are "dismantling liberals" on their highly curated college tours. It is used in a variety of ways.
For example, it was used to justify dismantling USAID. A quick search brings up the right-wing think tank The Heritage Foundation pushing the story "How USAID Went Woke and Destroyed Itself". Now the US has lost a major component of its soft power. No reforming, no identifying what was critical, no assessing impact. Just withdrawn.
Another that came up in the same search was "‘Is it “woke” to care about the environment?’: how Trump’s cuts are dismantling global conservation work" by the guardian.
It is used by people in power to control discourses and enact political change. If you are happy to lap up the propaganda side of it, and ignore the policy side, that is your choice though. [Post edited 14 Nov 2025 17:14]
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but when the heritage foundation wrote "How USAID Went Woke and Destroyed Itself" what did it mean? how did it think usaid went 'woke'? i suspect their argument was not unconnected with the definition i offered.
"It is used by people in power to control discourses and enact political change" is a pretty lazy cliche. all debate and challenge is an attempt to shape discourse and language is used to belittle some views and champion others. both sides do it. grouping a set of fairly dominant themes together and attaching a label however pejorative is a perfectly normal rhetorical technique - it's a normal part of debate. i'm sure you use 'right wing extremism' as a short hand to cover a wide range of vaguely related ideas and people that you disagree with. you're not 'controlling' any discourse anymore than those who use 'woke' pejoratively. it's just a label used when people disagree, it's got nothing to do with power or control. | |
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