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The reason to stop the boats 19:03 - Jan 30 with 6547 viewsgtsb1966

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The reason to stop the boats on 21:29 - Jan 30 with 538 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The reason to stop the boats on 21:24 - Jan 30 by JackNorthStand

Yes sure.

So the person in the post who committed this awful murder arrived on a small boat from France. So I am referring to specifically asylum seekers who arrive this way.

I think stopping this comes down to the system which the UK have in place. It is far more appealing than claiming asylum in France ( for the purpose of keeping this post short I won’t go into it but you can look it up ).

If the UK can make changes then the risk of crossing the channel on a small boat would outweigh the reward.

What are your thoughts, out of interest?


You are suggesting we put in place a proper system to allow people to claim asylum in the UK whilst still in France? That certainly makes some sense and I would certainly find that better than what happens currently.
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:45 - Jan 30 with 491 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 20:22 - Jan 30 by BlacknGoldnBlue

Young men frequently constitute the majority of small boat Channel crossings (approx. 75% of arrivals) because they are often selected by families to undertake the dangerous, physically demanding journey first. This strategy allows them to seek asylum and later bring family members safely, as they are better equipped to navigate the risks.


What a load of absolute bollox.
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:49 - Jan 30 with 478 viewsBloomBlue

Not a reason to stop all asylum seekers but questions need to be asked about if we are undertaking real checks on those individuals. This scumbag lied about his age, what else was he allowed to lie about. He also had a failed asylum in Germany, why?

As her Mum said if he had been sent back immediately her daughter would be alive today, and that is a fact.
And Rhiannon Whyte had as much right to expect to live her life without being murdered, as any asylum seeker has the right to seek a new life in this country.
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:51 - Jan 30 with 478 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

What a disgusting OP.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:55 - Jan 30 with 469 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 21:51 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

What a disgusting OP.


Here he comes.
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:57 - Jan 30 with 458 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

The reason to stop the boats on 21:55 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Here he comes.


.....and?

Vile take on a family's tragedy.
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"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:57 - Jan 30 with 457 viewsTonytown

The reason to stop the boats on 21:55 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Here he comes.


Well you did start it
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:58 - Jan 30 with 455 viewsTonytown

The reason to stop the boats on 21:45 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

What a load of absolute bollox.


You are speaking
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The reason to stop the boats on 21:59 - Jan 30 with 451 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 21:57 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

.....and?

Vile take on a family's tragedy.
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Stop him coming here this doesn't happen.
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:01 - Jan 30 with 442 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The reason to stop the boats on 21:59 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Stop him coming here this doesn't happen.


Can you explain how you would stop him coming here?

Or is it just a nice soundbite?

Properly processing those who do come would make it far less likely to happen wouldn't it?

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:03 - Jan 30 with 438 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 21:57 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

.....and?

Vile take on a family's tragedy.
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Read what the victims mother said.
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:06 - Jan 30 with 423 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

The reason to stop the boats on 22:03 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Read what the victims mother said.


No, let's concentrate on what you have done here and your carefully considered OP.

"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:08 - Jan 30 with 408 viewsBigalhunter

The reason to stop the boats on 21:13 - Jan 30 by JackNorthStand

I’ve just read that this guy came on a boat from France - Therefor he wasn’t an asylum seeker at all, he was an illegal immigrant and in the report from the court case it is reported that he lied about his age upon arrival and arrest. He should not of been in our country full stop and this is exactly why we should not be offering incentives to anyone to enter our country illegally on a boat from France.
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Should ‘have’ been, not should ‘of’ been.

Important for any upstanding Englishman to master the very basics of his mother tongue.

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:10 - Jan 30 with 399 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 22:06 - Jan 30 by BanksterDebtSlave

No, let's concentrate on what you have done here and your carefully considered OP.


Read what the mother and sister said. They're right, so am I.
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:12 - Jan 30 with 385 viewsMattinLondon

The reason to stop the boats on 21:59 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Stop him coming here this doesn't happen.


I think everyone agrees that proper checks need to be completed on everyone coming into the country. But that’s a different issue to implying that all asylum seekers are dangerous criminals.
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:13 - Jan 30 with 385 viewsHerbivore

The reason to stop the boats on 21:24 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

True but...if all the people who came over by boat were detained and not allowed on the streets until their claim had been processed there would be uproar amongst certain liberty groups.


You think we should lock up all asylum seekers because a small minority of them might commit a crime? Should we lock up all voting age men because a small minority of them might commit a crime?

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:15 - Jan 30 with 380 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The reason to stop the boats on 22:10 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Read what the mother and sister said. They're right, so am I.


It is terrible. And all the more reason for having safe routes of entry and properly processing asylum applications. Even then, though, it won't prevent illegal immigration and criminals committing criminal acts.

As a matter of interest, what do you propose should be done to prevent illegal immigration and prevent people (immigrants or otherwise) committing crimes?

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:22 - Jan 30 with 361 viewsreusersfreekicks

The reason to stop the boats on 21:13 - Jan 30 by JackNorthStand

I’ve just read that this guy came on a boat from France - Therefor he wasn’t an asylum seeker at all, he was an illegal immigrant and in the report from the court case it is reported that he lied about his age upon arrival and arrest. He should not of been in our country full stop and this is exactly why we should not be offering incentives to anyone to enter our country illegally on a boat from France.
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Please outline the incentives the UK offers to people arriving on boats from France
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:25 - Jan 30 with 346 viewsvapour_trail

The reason to stop the boats on 21:45 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

What a load of absolute bollox.


You’ve spoken at length on your own family’s travails on here in the past.

If your country was fcked, you’d send your mother and daughter to gain a foothold abroad whilst you waited at home, would you?

You should pipe down, otherwise you might come across as a bit of a c£&@.

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:25 - Jan 30 with 345 viewsSwansea_Blue

The reason to stop the boats on 21:45 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

What a load of absolute bollox.


Apparently not. Although the majority of small boat arrivals are male and make the initial main applicant claim, asylum seekers coming through dependent and family reunion* routes are overwhelmingly female.

https://migrationobservatory.o



*The family reunion route was scrapped last autumn.

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The reason to stop the boats on 22:34 - Jan 30 with 314 viewsbartyg

The reason to stop the boats on 21:59 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Stop him coming here this doesn't happen.


Are you a precog?
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:35 - Jan 30 with 314 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 22:25 - Jan 30 by vapour_trail

You’ve spoken at length on your own family’s travails on here in the past.

If your country was fcked, you’d send your mother and daughter to gain a foothold abroad whilst you waited at home, would you?

You should pipe down, otherwise you might come across as a bit of a c£&@.


I'll come across a bit of a #£#@ as you say. I dont care. What i do care about is this country letting anyone in to roam our streets without knowing the history of each and every one of them. Murderers, drug dealers , pimps, you name it we've let them in. We cant do anything about the lowlife scum who are here but we can certainly stop adding to it .
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:37 - Jan 30 with 306 viewsTonytown

The reason to stop the boats on 22:10 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

Read what the mother and sister said. They're right, so am I.


You are so right wing
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:38 - Jan 30 with 304 viewsgtsb1966

The reason to stop the boats on 22:37 - Jan 30 by Tonytown

You are so right wing


Are they?
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The reason to stop the boats on 22:38 - Jan 30 with 302 viewsTonytown

The reason to stop the boats on 22:35 - Jan 30 by gtsb1966

I'll come across a bit of a #£#@ as you say. I dont care. What i do care about is this country letting anyone in to roam our streets without knowing the history of each and every one of them. Murderers, drug dealers , pimps, you name it we've let them in. We cant do anything about the lowlife scum who are here but we can certainly stop adding to it .


You love are country etc
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