| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that 23:48 - Feb 13 with 3524 views | BlueStreak |
Are deluded. Two of our three biggest club achievements (ever) were in knock out competitions.
That was pathetic and disrespectful to our 1978 and 1981 teams.
Focus on the league?! For what? Finish 19th and get battered each week? I can’t believe the whole see next week is being accepted. This shows how weak our mentality continues to be. We should be ten points clear at the top, we aren’t. Bromley in the cup, out. Tonight, out. It’s pathetic. |  | | |  |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:49 - Feb 13 with 2120 views | redrickstuhaart |
They were very different competitions then. We cant live in the past, as much as many of us would like to. |  |
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| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:52 - Feb 13 with 2072 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
"Finish 19th and get battered each week?"
Who has the weak mentality now?
Dropping two points to Preston was far worse. |  |
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| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:53 - Feb 13 with 2076 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:49 - Feb 13 by redrickstuhaart |
They were very different competitions then. We cant live in the past, as much as many of us would like to. |
What the hell does that even mean? Seeing Ipswich win the FA cup would mean the absolute world to me. You saying that wouldn’t mean as much as finishing 16th in the PL?! | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:54 - Feb 13 with 2067 views | FoghornGleghorn |
I think our 1978 and 1981 teams are likely to be far more disappointed seeing their old club in the second tier and entirely understanding as to why the full focus is on getting back out of it than worrying about the "disrespect". | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:57 - Feb 13 with 2037 views | have_a_word_with_him |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:54 - Feb 13 by FoghornGleghorn |
I think our 1978 and 1981 teams are likely to be far more disappointed seeing their old club in the second tier and entirely understanding as to why the full focus is on getting back out of it than worrying about the "disrespect". |
Are you speaking on behalf of George Burley, Mick Mills, Alan Brazil, Terry Butcher etc? They were all serial winners who wanted to win every competition they were in. |  | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:01 - Feb 14 with 1996 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:54 - Feb 13 by FoghornGleghorn |
I think our 1978 and 1981 teams are likely to be far more disappointed seeing their old club in the second tier and entirely understanding as to why the full focus is on getting back out of it than worrying about the "disrespect". |
Try telling them and their medals that.
Why just compete when you can win something? It’s a pathetic mindset.
Well done ten years in the PL or here’s your medal for winning a major honour, I know what I’d prefer. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:06 - Feb 14 with 1970 views | algy |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:54 - Feb 13 by FoghornGleghorn |
I think our 1978 and 1981 teams are likely to be far more disappointed seeing their old club in the second tier and entirely understanding as to why the full focus is on getting back out of it than worrying about the "disrespect". |
We got to the big league for the first time in decades and all we were was tryhard fodder and chewed up and spat out by all the division, even the 2 other inadequates managed to beat us.Having now bought virtually a whole new squad, many of dubious quality, it's unlikely we'll do any better next time. | |
| Never forget that for ITFC the game changed in April 2021. |
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| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:10 - Feb 14 with 1945 views | MattinLondon |
The only thing that’s pathetic is your post.
The league is far more important than the FA Cup - promotion to the PL earns the club £150M per season. SBR moved with the times and he would’ve understood that - as would the vast majority of the clubs players who played in those matches. [Post edited 14 Feb 7:19]
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| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:10 - Feb 14 with 1947 views | Churchman |
I disagree. You are clearly too young to have remembered that time.
The FA Cup is not the same competition. Not remotely. Nor is it important beyond lower clubs that can earn much needed money or the top clubs looking for a consolation prize.
I witnessed what the FA Cup was. It was the most prestigious competition in the country and on a par with the League. Can you honestly say it is now? As for the UEFA Cup, the same applies. It was played for by the best teams after the Champions. It isn’t that now.
We should be 10 points clear at the top? I wish we were and hoped we would be. But we are not entitled to be. Other teams are also professional and want to win too. It’s called sport, you win, you lose. |  | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:13 - Feb 14 with 1934 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:10 - Feb 14 by MattinLondon |
The only thing that’s pathetic is your post.
The league is far more important than the FA Cup - promotion to the PL earns the club £150M per season. SBR moved with the times and he would’ve understood that - as would the vast majority of the clubs players who played in those matches. [Post edited 14 Feb 7:19]
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I watch my team to try and win trophies, not collect cash.
If that is how it is then what are we actually competing for? We aren’t going to win the PL so what do you actually aspire to as a football fan of Ipswich town? A top 14 finish but a load of cash you’ll never see? You kidding me? | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:15 - Feb 14 with 1925 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:10 - Feb 14 by Churchman |
I disagree. You are clearly too young to have remembered that time.
The FA Cup is not the same competition. Not remotely. Nor is it important beyond lower clubs that can earn much needed money or the top clubs looking for a consolation prize.
I witnessed what the FA Cup was. It was the most prestigious competition in the country and on a par with the League. Can you honestly say it is now? As for the UEFA Cup, the same applies. It was played for by the best teams after the Champions. It isn’t that now.
We should be 10 points clear at the top? I wish we were and hoped we would be. But we are not entitled to be. Other teams are also professional and want to win too. It’s called sport, you win, you lose. |
So what would you prefer, a second place finish and a relegation the next season, or an FA cup win, no promotion and a European run?
We’ve only won the FA cup once in over almost 150 years, so why are we being so arrogant to say it doesn’t matter now? | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:21 - Feb 14 with 1916 views | quirkie |
I'm in the camp of the original poster here. Just treat the FA Cup with respect. Wrexham now will be aiming for the play offs for sure, that will be their priority but then they are two fa cup games away from a Wembley appearance. They won't win it but gives the fans a reason why they watch football.
We all know that our priority is to go up and get a pocketful of cash to build for the long term but realistically we are going to have to buy a whole new team in the Summer as there is zero chance of our current squad surviving next season in the Premier league.
I'm always of the sentiment that success breeds more success. We could have at least tried a bit better tonight. Alas seems to be the Ipswich way over the last 10-20 years. |  |
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| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:29 - Feb 14 with 1880 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:15 - Feb 14 by BlueStreak |
So what would you prefer, a second place finish and a relegation the next season, or an FA cup win, no promotion and a European run?
We’ve only won the FA cup once in over almost 150 years, so why are we being so arrogant to say it doesn’t matter now? |
What planet are you on thinking that we have or had a chance to win the FA cup - you are deluded beyond reason. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:32 - Feb 14 with 1877 views | mrfixit426 |
They're all out tonight. |  | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:32 - Feb 14 with 1875 views | Churchman |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:15 - Feb 14 by BlueStreak |
So what would you prefer, a second place finish and a relegation the next season, or an FA cup win, no promotion and a European run?
We’ve only won the FA cup once in over almost 150 years, so why are we being so arrogant to say it doesn’t matter now? |
Because it doesn’t matter now. I remember what it was. The only thing remotely the same is the trophy - except it’s a different one (there are three, one of which is the one presented in the 70s/80s that became too fragile and is only used for events).
I’d take promotion and the money all day long because it would help grow the club.
For new supporters like maybe yourself, you clearly don’t know that Evans nearly ran this club into the ground. It is more important than a trophy that used to be worthwhile but isn’t now. A European competition? What a Mickey Mouse one that cripples your season like Palace and West Ham have seen? No, you can keep it.
Do I loathe the Premier L and the way the game has been ruined? Yes, it’s appalling. But I’d rather see this club taking a small slice of the pie than where Evans and his serial incompetents nearly took us. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:33 - Feb 14 with 1862 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:29 - Feb 14 by benrhyddingblue |
What planet are you on thinking that we have or had a chance to win the FA cup - you are deluded beyond reason. |
So what do you want in football? We may as well just give up an go home then. No point.
On this basis what do you think will happen if we get promoted? If we don’t think we can win it do we just not bother? Come on be brave enough and respond. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:38 - Feb 14 with 1825 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:32 - Feb 14 by Churchman |
Because it doesn’t matter now. I remember what it was. The only thing remotely the same is the trophy - except it’s a different one (there are three, one of which is the one presented in the 70s/80s that became too fragile and is only used for events).
I’d take promotion and the money all day long because it would help grow the club.
For new supporters like maybe yourself, you clearly don’t know that Evans nearly ran this club into the ground. It is more important than a trophy that used to be worthwhile but isn’t now. A European competition? What a Mickey Mouse one that cripples your season like Palace and West Ham have seen? No, you can keep it.
Do I loathe the Premier L and the way the game has been ruined? Yes, it’s appalling. But I’d rather see this club taking a small slice of the pie than where Evans and his serial incompetents nearly took us. |
So you don’t want to win anything, you don’t want the PL. So what do you actually want as a football fan?! For you to say it doesn’t really matter now is a disgraceful comment especially from someone clearly old enough to remember how important the FA cup final was for the country.
With respect to your comment around me not supporting for that long, I’ve supported Ipswich for 30 years and have seen more downs than ups by a considerable margin. To have an FA cup run that I could share with my kids would mean the world to me. But tomorrow I’ve got to tell my youngest that we lost again because we didn’t really care, and that makes me sad.
Doesn’t matter I can him the good news that a pension fund made a load of money if we get promoted. He will be delighted. You should be embarrassed with your comments after being a town fan for so long, you really should. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:41 - Feb 14 with 1815 views | Churchman |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:33 - Feb 14 by BlueStreak |
So what do you want in football? We may as well just give up an go home then. No point.
On this basis what do you think will happen if we get promoted? If we don’t think we can win it do we just not bother? Come on be brave enough and respond. |
No, we don’t. Your beloved Mick whose football you dream of seeing here never gave a jot about the Cups. Why do you think that was?
Following a football club is about watching it develop and grow, watch it win games, sometimes lose and hopefully play some decent football. Big picture, little picture and quite frankly, the Cups aren’t even in the picture. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:43 - Feb 14 with 1807 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:41 - Feb 14 by Churchman |
No, we don’t. Your beloved Mick whose football you dream of seeing here never gave a jot about the Cups. Why do you think that was?
Following a football club is about watching it develop and grow, watch it win games, sometimes lose and hopefully play some decent football. Big picture, little picture and quite frankly, the Cups aren’t even in the picture. |
Why do we have three stars on our shirt then and just not one? | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:55 - Feb 14 with 1786 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:49 - Feb 13 by redrickstuhaart |
They were very different competitions then. We cant live in the past, as much as many of us would like to. |
They were indeed, and I was there to see both, just missed out on Sir Alfs League one winning season by one season too. Unfortunately those sides were light years ahead of what we have now. Though it makes no difference to me in terms of backing ITFC. I'd do that if we were in the National league. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:13 - Feb 14 with 1750 views | Churchman |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 00:43 - Feb 14 by BlueStreak |
Why do we have three stars on our shirt then and just not one? |
Football has changed. Get over it. It is what it is.
We didn’t win Dixie squat when we were promoted from L1 and Championship, but I enjoyed it. You clearly didn’t. Wembley 2000 and games that preceded it - I enjoyed them, but in your terms we didn’t win anything.
The reality you are failing to grasp is that the FA Cup is not the same. It’s just a name and it died the day Man U decided not to play in it. The BBC might big it up with pictures of kids with tinfoil cups but that’s because they have little live football to show - or much else.
In the 70s to 82 we were a top team. In contention. I saw it. The two domestic cups mattered (the League Cup was a bit meh). So did the European Cup and UEFA Cup. In 81 we were one of the best sides in Europe, if not the best. Will the team winning the UEFA Cup or any other tin pit now be? Of course not.
Using the FA Cup to beat the team and manager you clearly loathe up with is plain wrong. The game is what it is. Either take from it what you can (mates, shared experience, triumph and disaster - see Kipling) or do something else.
Shopping, cinema, gardening, books, Call the Midwife. There’s lots out there for you to enjoy. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:18 - Feb 14 with 1733 views | BlueStreak |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:13 - Feb 14 by Churchman |
Football has changed. Get over it. It is what it is.
We didn’t win Dixie squat when we were promoted from L1 and Championship, but I enjoyed it. You clearly didn’t. Wembley 2000 and games that preceded it - I enjoyed them, but in your terms we didn’t win anything.
The reality you are failing to grasp is that the FA Cup is not the same. It’s just a name and it died the day Man U decided not to play in it. The BBC might big it up with pictures of kids with tinfoil cups but that’s because they have little live football to show - or much else.
In the 70s to 82 we were a top team. In contention. I saw it. The two domestic cups mattered (the League Cup was a bit meh). So did the European Cup and UEFA Cup. In 81 we were one of the best sides in Europe, if not the best. Will the team winning the UEFA Cup or any other tin pit now be? Of course not.
Using the FA Cup to beat the team and manager you clearly loathe up with is plain wrong. The game is what it is. Either take from it what you can (mates, shared experience, triumph and disaster - see Kipling) or do something else.
Shopping, cinema, gardening, books, Call the Midwife. There’s lots out there for you to enjoy. |
You’re an absolute clown.
I want our team to win everything, simple as that. The most ironic thing is that you were around to see our absolute best of times, stuff I’d give anything to experience once. But no, you want to be a yo yo Burnley now. Well good for you. Give me a Wigan FA cup win over anything I’ve experienced in the last 30 years. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:31 - Feb 14 with 1700 views | Churchman |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:18 - Feb 14 by BlueStreak |
You’re an absolute clown.
I want our team to win everything, simple as that. The most ironic thing is that you were around to see our absolute best of times, stuff I’d give anything to experience once. But no, you want to be a yo yo Burnley now. Well good for you. Give me a Wigan FA cup win over anything I’ve experienced in the last 30 years. |
I wasn’t rude to you so do me the curtesy of not being rude to me.
A little tip - write on the forum as you would if you were speaking to them face to face. | | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 02:19 - Feb 14 with 1614 views | StNeotsBlue |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 01:31 - Feb 14 by Churchman |
I wasn’t rude to you so do me the curtesy of not being rude to me.
A little tip - write on the forum as you would if you were speaking to them face to face. |
Your reply is of course correct in nature but I must say I'm with the other guy on this, I just want us to have a go in every game. Failure I don't mind but just at least try not to fail.
One of the biggest frustrations I have is that my kids were growing up during the Keane/Porno Paul/MMc era and every time I took them to a game we were inevitabily awful and especially under MMc looked to be aiming for a 0-0.
We are one of only four teams in the 92 to have not played at the new Wembley, I would have happily taken a day out there in the Papa John's Trophy before I shuffle off to an eternal slumber. |  | | |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 02:25 - Feb 14 with 1579 views | berkstractorboy |
| Those saying that it doesn’t matter we went out like that on 23:53 - Feb 13 by BlueStreak |
What the hell does that even mean? Seeing Ipswich win the FA cup would mean the absolute world to me. You saying that wouldn’t mean as much as finishing 16th in the PL?! |
I think you are deluded if you think we are even getting past 5th round of the FA Cup letting alone getting to the final. Yes tonight was really poor and unacceptable but if we are ever to get close to a cup final again, we need to be in the PL where the money is and strengthening the team each season.
Did you even listen to what KMc was saying about fixture congestion if we did go through. We are clearly struggling for consistency this season and squad rotation not working. The club have a lot of work to do to sort out the squad mentality, but if the club are prioritising the league I support that as much as you don't. You seem to live in some fantasy land and not the reality of what is in front of a stuttering team this season. | | | |
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