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Greens odds on to win with Reform 2nd and Labour 3rd. Surely that would be the end of Starmer if that happened. One can only hope. I cant see some members of the party waiting for the annihilation in the May elections. https://www.oddschecker.com/po
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 03:08 - Feb 27 with 1501 views
Gorton and Denton By-election on 21:09 - Feb 15 by redrickstuhaart
Most of that is very very jaundiced in its viewpoint.
He is a decent person, with largely decent intentions, who largely acts with integrity. Compared to the last 3 PMs he is on a different planet.
The hard left nonsense will kill the party and let farage in.
True about Blackrock, ‘Freeports’ and ‘Special Economic Zones’ though - Starmer chose to continue with this very worst of Tory policies which puts greed, deregulation & overriding of all principles, first.
Gorton and Denton By-election on 04:10 - Feb 27 by baxterbasics
Still waiting.
But all the noise is that the Greens have it.
Goodwin said to have admitted as much.
Labour third and possibly by some distance.
Yep ,now at this stage it’s just the numbers and they could tell more than the result .. it’s a left wing alliance and labour spent too much effort on reform.
Gorton and Denton By-election on 04:25 - Feb 27 by Perublue
Yep ,now at this stage it’s just the numbers and they could tell more than the result .. it’s a left wing alliance and labour spent too much effort on reform.
Labour not being part of a left wing alliance speaks volumes I think.
I guess it’s time to get used to talk of a lab/con alliance .. it’s been mentioned and talked of but they’ll both do anything to keep and regain power .. they’re not far off being the same with the left and right wings of each party being jettisoned.
Gorton and Denton By-election on 06:42 - Feb 27 by noggin
Wonderful result and a great speech from their candidate.
Stop the yachts.
The beginning of that speech, where she references being a plumber and qualifying as a plasterer, must be one of the best openings to a victory speech ever.
She comes across as a really lovely person, something that accords with the people I have come across in my dealings with the Green party locally.
The smears against the Greens started when Zach Polanski became leader because they became a threat, and they will inevitably go into overdrive with this victory.
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:36 - Feb 27 with 1062 views
Gorton and Denton By-election on 03:38 - Feb 27 by Perublue
I better start getting kettle on for you .. getting close now, another half an hour… you do snore btw.
Where were you?
As it is, there was no special election programme on the radio overnight but I checked my phone each time I drifted out of sleep, and missed the election result by a few minutes.
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:45 - Feb 27 with 1000 views
The views of John Curtice are always worth considering, so here they are
"Hitherto, the Greens had never won more than 10% of the vote in a parliamentary by-election, a figure they reached in the Somerton and Frome by-election in 2023.
Now Hannah Spencer has already claimed her place in the history books as the first ever Green candidate to win a parliamentary by-election.
Not only did Spencer win, but she won well, significantly outperforming the expectations of the polls.
Rather than winning narrowly, the party won 40.7%, enough to put them as much as 12 points ahead of second placed Reform. It represented as much as a 27.5 point increase on the party's share in 2024.
Labour, who had not hitherto lost an election in the area since 1931, fell into third place. The party's 25.4% of the vote represented a near halving of their 50.8% of the vote in 2024 and the 13th biggest ever fall in the party's support in a by-election.
Meanwhile, the Conservatives lost their deposit with just 1.9% of the vote, their worst ever by-election result.
Apart from the exceptional circumstances of the Rochdale by-election in 2024, when Labour disowned their candidate, leaving George Galloway to defeat a second-placed independent candidate, it is the first time that neither Labour nor the Conservatives have been one of the top two parties in a by-election contest.
With the two parties both running at 20% or less in the polls, the Conservative-Labour duopoly that has long dominated post-war British politics has never looked weaker.
The Conservatives are struggling to fend off the challenge from Reform, and now, at the other end of the spectrum, Labour's traditional position of the principal party of the left of British politics is evidently under threat from the Greens.
Doubtless the result will raise fresh questions in Labour MPs minds as to whether Keir Starmer should remain prime minister."
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:48 - Feb 27 with 958 views
Gorton and Denton By-election on 01:37 - Feb 27 by ElderGrizzly
Funded/founded by Tory donors apparently
Aren’t you guilty of Trump-like smears. From a bit of quick research I’ve found that they were founded by their current Director John Auld, a former Liberal Democrat (are you still a member?) councillor and former Chair of The Electoral Reform Society, a body that campaigns to end the first by the post system in favour of proportional representation.
They receive funding through grants from charities such as the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust and the Andrew Wainwright Reform Trust. They are officially accredited as election observers by the Electoral Commission.
“What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it........."
Gorton and Denton By-election on 01:42 - Feb 27 by ElderGrizzly
Of course Reform are all over it.
Straight from the Trump playbook. Claim fraud before the result is known and you think you've lost.
One report said, if true, it affected 32 votes?
Again, you’re guilty of Trump-like smears. The actual report said that “in one polling station alone the team observed 32 cases of family voting in a sample of 545 voters casting their votes”.
“What is a club in any case? Not the buildings or the directors or the people who are paid to represent it........."
Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:31 - Feb 27 by DJR
The beginning of that speech, where she references being a plumber and qualifying as a plasterer, must be one of the best openings to a victory speech ever.
She comes across as a really lovely person, something that accords with the people I have come across in my dealings with the Green party locally.
The smears against the Greens started when Zach Polanski became leader because they became a threat, and they will inevitably go into overdrive with this victory.
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A vicious interview of Zac Polanski from Nick Robinson earlier, who then followed it up with a gentle tickle of some Ref*rm bloke's belly.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
Gorton and Denton By-election on 04:56 - Feb 27 by CoachRob
Thumping win. Absolutely delighted with that and seeing anti-academic Matt Goodwin get his ar$e handed to him is a wonderful sight.
Labour sending Keir Starmer to visit the constituency had zero impact and the left have completely abandoned the party.
Smashed it, there's clearly no appetite for the progressive left agenda in the country!
"I didn’t grow up wanting to be a politician. I am a plumber. I am no different to every single person here in this constituency. I work hard. That is what we do. Except things have changed a lot over the last few decades, because working hard used to get me something. It got you a house, a nice life, holidays, it got you somewhere. But now, working hard, what does that get you? Because life has changed. Instead of working for a nice life, we’re working to line the pockets of billionaires. We are being bled dry. People in their thousands told me, on the doorstep and at the ballot box, that what we are sick of is being let down and looked down on. That we are sick of our hard work making other people rich …"
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:31 - Feb 27 by DJR
The beginning of that speech, where she references being a plumber and qualifying as a plasterer, must be one of the best openings to a victory speech ever.
She comes across as a really lovely person, something that accords with the people I have come across in my dealings with the Green party locally.
The smears against the Greens started when Zach Polanski became leader because they became a threat, and they will inevitably go into overdrive with this victory.
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I tried my best to convince Junior to be a plumber but the crazy young fool wouldn't listen and went with debt burdened nursing! And guess what there's no funding for jobs now, 60 graduates looking at less than 20 places when 4 years ago they were guaranteed work in Leeds upon graduation when applying.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Gorton and Denton By-election on 07:59 - Feb 27 by NthQldITFC
A vicious interview of Zac Polanski from Nick Robinson earlier, who then followed it up with a gentle tickle of some Ref*rm bloke's belly.
Yes I heard that. Interviewer was ridiculous. Asked him about leaflets in Urdu - Polanski tried to answer - got interrupted - bloke asked the same question. Three times. If the BBC are trying to defeat the Greens with that kind of thing it's absolutely not going to work.
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 09:58 - Feb 27 with 533 views
Gorton and Denton By-election on 08:41 - Feb 27 by BanksterDebtSlave
Smashed it, there's clearly no appetite for the progressive left agenda in the country!
"I didn’t grow up wanting to be a politician. I am a plumber. I am no different to every single person here in this constituency. I work hard. That is what we do. Except things have changed a lot over the last few decades, because working hard used to get me something. It got you a house, a nice life, holidays, it got you somewhere. But now, working hard, what does that get you? Because life has changed. Instead of working for a nice life, we’re working to line the pockets of billionaires. We are being bled dry. People in their thousands told me, on the doorstep and at the ballot box, that what we are sick of is being let down and looked down on. That we are sick of our hard work making other people rich …"
“ we are sick of our hard work making other people rich”
Well at least she doesn’t have to pay what plumbers charge for a call-out 😀
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Gorton and Denton By-election on 10:10 - Feb 27 with 504 views