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The replays I’ve seen clearly show that Taylor toe ended the ball away from the defender, who then missed the ball and connected with Taylor instead. Pen all day for me.
Didn’t we have one against us recently that was very much the same?
Reminds me of the ROI peno against Czechia. Where Collins nipped the ball off the defender in the box:
Check out the first 90 seconds of the below"
Seems like, a little toe poke means you are in possession and any interference is a foul. At the time I thought the Nodge defender connected with Taylors neck/face.
Ultimately its down to the defender to clear the ball or protect it.
The above shows there is precedent so stop whining Budgies!!!
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 22:54 - Apr 13 with 466 views
Soft but a penalty, Taylor gets the ball, the defender doesn't. The defender kicks Taylor in the wrist which is near his chest and possible a hand/fingers in his face too. Taylor is already starting to go down at the point of contact which is why it's soft but it's still a pen
The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:22 - Apr 11 by Churchman
Marginal, but not for me Vic. That looked a bit similar to the Stoke farce, which wasn’t either.
Win some, lose some.
I know what you mean but I dont think this is strictly accurate. The Stoke one denied us two points, as did the Leicester non-award - they were both right at the end of the respective games - practically the last kicks - and you have to think that we would have been well placed to win both those games.
The norwich one was one of two goals that we scored - so you could argue that it really didnt make any difference whether it was given or not, we were always going to win!
So fortunately we have a bit of luck still to come our way
(I am choosing to ignore the Nunez / Davis card situation as they are a bit inconvenient to this "analysis")
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 23:08 - Apr 13 with 443 views
It’s not a penalty and if it was given against us we’d be fuming. Normalising a foul as being anything where any amount of contact is made regardless of its effect is turning football to sh1t and we shouldn’t justify it just because we benefitted this time.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 23:49 - Apr 13 with 418 views
Taylor nicks the ball and gets in front of Slimane. Slimane is kicking through to clear a ball which is no longer there. Taylor's momentum takes him into the kick. There's some contact, not a huge amount but certainly enough to impede Taylor and Clement saying it's a dive is horsepoo. Slimane's knee is at head height and his boot at stomach height. Taylor goes down backwards almost as there's half a human in his path. Yes, he then rolls around a bit and holds his ankle because he's aware he's been fouled and unless you do a bit of that these days you rarely get a decision. Clement saying it's cheating etc is very disingenuous and I think in reality he knows better.
It's all very unfortunate for Slimane who doesn't know much about it. If it happened to us I'd be pissed. But that doesn't mean it's not a penalty.
The delay giving the decision has massively fed into their hysteria, combined with the obvious sour grapes from their manager. Their total meltdown and lack of critical thinking about the whole thing is frankly hilarious.
The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 23:08 - Apr 13 by Sarge
It’s not a penalty and if it was given against us we’d be fuming. Normalising a foul as being anything where any amount of contact is made regardless of its effect is turning football to sh1t and we shouldn’t justify it just because we benefitted this time.
Yeah, we should.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 00:39 - Apr 14 with 370 views
As far as I'm concerned it wasn't even a question, even if the defender made absolutely no contact. Dangerously high boot, free kick anywhere else on the pitch. In the penalty area.........
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 02:00 - Apr 14 with 348 views
A strange one for me - in that I think both a foul was committed and Taylor dived.
That Taylor was already on his way down and then held his ankle does not take away the fact that the defender swung a high leg, made no contact with the ball and did make contact with Taylor - so it has to be a penalty for high contact. Taylor's dive didn't instigate the contact, if anything it saved him getting a face full of studs.
That said, if I was Clement or a Budgie fan then I could probably use all of the above and spin it differently.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? (n/t) on 02:35 - Apr 14 with 342 views
By the laws of the game - high boot (dangerous play) with contact (knee to arm chest) it’s a pen. Spirit of the game - he didn’t see Jack behind him, Jack was looking for it, many refs wouldn’t give it. I don’t blame Jack - any pro footballer would do the same thing. Defender should have been more aware and was clumsy. Bottom line is that despite possession/number of corners stats, we created better chances and deserved to win which we did 😀.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 07:47 - Apr 14 with 255 views
The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 00:39 - Apr 14 by armchaircritic59
As far as I'm concerned it wasn't even a question, even if the defender made absolutely no contact. Dangerously high boot, free kick anywhere else on the pitch. In the penalty area.........
If he makes no contact then it's dangerous play and an indirect freekick.
The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 00:13 - Apr 14 by MattinLondon
Yeah, we should.
Fine but there can be no crying next time some bullsh1t like the Stoke penalty happens. I know football fans have no ability to be objective about anything but it was a laughable decision, albeit extremely satisfying against them given the numerous offside goals they’ve scored against us in the last 10 years.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 12:12 - Apr 14 with 157 views
The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 12:08 - Apr 14 by Sarge
Fine but there can be no crying next time some bullsh1t like the Stoke penalty happens. I know football fans have no ability to be objective about anything but it was a laughable decision, albeit extremely satisfying against them given the numerous offside goals they’ve scored against us in the last 10 years.
I choose not to be objective and instead employ hypocrisy whenever a bad decision goes in our favour or against it.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 14:44 - Apr 14 with 69 views
Never a penalty, Tom Daleyesque diving from Jack, blatant cheating...
Let's face it, we would all be livid if that had been given against us. Rather than try to justify the award of it, let's enjoy it, there is nothing funnier (or sweeter), than a long overdue shocking penalty decision going in our favour against our nearest and dearest!
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 14:48 - Apr 14 with 65 views
Let's say it was soft, against us we would not be happy. Having said that, we've had some stinking decisions, and some soft ones against us - Stoke springs to mind.
It's a game of swings and roundabouts, the refs are so incompetent it levels out for everyone eventually.
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