| McKenna thoughts… 07:47 - Apr 14 with 3323 views | chripswich |
Let’s hope tonight goes well.
Would like to raise a discussion about Mckennas future.
Three promotions (we are going up!), one relegation. In four years. Will he want the chance of a 3:2 scoreline. I doubt it.
His stock is once again at a high. As sad as I’d be he’d be stupid to turn down a big job.
There’s a certain big club he knows VERY well and will need a new manager next season, plus others.
Personally I’d wish him well, unlike two years ago when all the hype was about him. I thought it was too early. He made the right choice then. Now???
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| McKenna thoughts… on 07:51 - Apr 14 with 2472 views | ringwoodblue |
Too early to say. Let’s get the job done first and then we can have this discussion. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 07:55 - Apr 14 with 2450 views | EddyJ |
I suspect his stock is lower than last time we got promoted.
We floundered in the prem last time. We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year. There have been accusations of us being over-coached. He probably needs to keep us up and perhaps build for a season after that if he wants to attract a mid-table prem team.
That said, he may feel he has taken us as far as he can. He may feel his relationship with the Ipswich fans has been a bit cooler this year than previously. He may fancy a new challenge, perhaps abroad. |  | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:20 - Apr 14 with 2280 views | StokieBlue |
I think he will want to stay, he's had a bash at the PL and now has a much better idea of what is required both tactically and with regards to the squad.
No shame in being relegated as a promoted club but massive upside in staying up with a promoted club and hopefully doing it in a good style.
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:20 - Apr 14 with 2281 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 07:55 - Apr 14 by EddyJ |
I suspect his stock is lower than last time we got promoted.
We floundered in the prem last time. We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year. There have been accusations of us being over-coached. He probably needs to keep us up and perhaps build for a season after that if he wants to attract a mid-table prem team.
That said, he may feel he has taken us as far as he can. He may feel his relationship with the Ipswich fans has been a bit cooler this year than previously. He may fancy a new challenge, perhaps abroad. |
"There have been accusations of us being over-coached" Only from people who don't really know too much about football.
I think McKenna's stock is much higher than you think. The relegation in the prem last time wasn't pretty but the squad (for Premier league level) was awful, like really bad. The performance level wasn't actually that bad. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:22 - Apr 14 with 2260 views | StokieBlue |
| McKenna thoughts… on 07:55 - Apr 14 by EddyJ |
I suspect his stock is lower than last time we got promoted.
We floundered in the prem last time. We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year. There have been accusations of us being over-coached. He probably needs to keep us up and perhaps build for a season after that if he wants to attract a mid-table prem team.
That said, he may feel he has taken us as far as he can. He may feel his relationship with the Ipswich fans has been a bit cooler this year than previously. He may fancy a new challenge, perhaps abroad. |
Relationship with the fans looked pretty good when he was hitting the badge on his chest on Saturday.
Let's get promoted first and then wait and see.
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:22 - Apr 14 with 2259 views | BiGDonnie |
I was of the opinion that he'd go regardless end of this season but now I think we'll go up and he stays. He'll want to seriously show what he can do in the Prem. We'll have a much better transfer window this time and be a lot better prepared. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:23 - Apr 14 with 2254 views | Herbivore |
| McKenna thoughts… on 07:55 - Apr 14 by EddyJ |
I suspect his stock is lower than last time we got promoted.
We floundered in the prem last time. We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year. There have been accusations of us being over-coached. He probably needs to keep us up and perhaps build for a season after that if he wants to attract a mid-table prem team.
That said, he may feel he has taken us as far as he can. He may feel his relationship with the Ipswich fans has been a bit cooler this year than previously. He may fancy a new challenge, perhaps abroad. |
The only people who don't rate McKenna highly are a very small number of our fans. His stock is plenty high enough that he'll be on the radar of Prem clubs again this summer. He is one of the brightest young managers in the game. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:25 - Apr 14 with 2230 views | bluelagos |
IF you are talking of Man U - no way he has the experience or success at a top level to be offered that job anytime soon.
For sure he'd take it if offered, for sure I'd wish him well if he did - but I don't think there's a realistic chance of it being offered to him this summer.
Other stepping stones opportunities far more likely - and quite feasible he might go. Very much hope he doesn't. [Post edited 14 Apr 8:35]
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:27 - Apr 14 with 2202 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:23 - Apr 14 by Herbivore |
The only people who don't rate McKenna highly are a very small number of our fans. His stock is plenty high enough that he'll be on the radar of Prem clubs again this summer. He is one of the brightest young managers in the game. |
I do think some people lose perspective sometimes that the guy is 39 and been a first team manager for 5 years..
In that time his CV is pretty ridiculous, yeh the prem didn't go well but as I say I think most managers in world football would have had a tough time with that squad. The calls for his head this season by some were absolutely absurd. | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:34 - Apr 14 with 2155 views | EastTownBlue |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:27 - Apr 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I do think some people lose perspective sometimes that the guy is 39 and been a first team manager for 5 years..
In that time his CV is pretty ridiculous, yeh the prem didn't go well but as I say I think most managers in world football would have had a tough time with that squad. The calls for his head this season by some were absolutely absurd. |
While many in the game won’t have expected back to back promotions, many will have predicted relegation from the PL. I’m sure that his stock remains high. What concerns me this summer is that there will be a number of managerial vacancies at the top level. | | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:37 - Apr 14 with 2131 views | itfcserbia |
I'm sorry, not a dig but a genuine question - what "big club he knows very well" are you thinking of?
Tottenham signed De Zerbi on a 5-year contract and he publicly committed to staying even if they are relegated. No way they sack him.
Man Utd - Carrick got them going again and will probably take them to CL, if they sacked him it would have to be for a big big name, not McKenna who is a bit stronger name than Carrick (arbitrary).
That leaves Palace? If you meant "he knows them" from the previous time around (sorry, I don't think of them as a big club by default) but a lot of inhouse stuff surfaced over the last few months and I don't know how stable they will be after this summer.
Maybe you meant Newcastle? I don't know. My feeling is there's a lot less clubs that might be in for McKenna this time around, nothing to do with him, just the situations around other clubs. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:38 - Apr 14 with 2118 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:37 - Apr 14 by itfcserbia |
I'm sorry, not a dig but a genuine question - what "big club he knows very well" are you thinking of?
Tottenham signed De Zerbi on a 5-year contract and he publicly committed to staying even if they are relegated. No way they sack him.
Man Utd - Carrick got them going again and will probably take them to CL, if they sacked him it would have to be for a big big name, not McKenna who is a bit stronger name than Carrick (arbitrary).
That leaves Palace? If you meant "he knows them" from the previous time around (sorry, I don't think of them as a big club by default) but a lot of inhouse stuff surfaced over the last few months and I don't know how stable they will be after this summer.
Maybe you meant Newcastle? I don't know. My feeling is there's a lot less clubs that might be in for McKenna this time around, nothing to do with him, just the situations around other clubs. |
If De Zerbi is managing Spurs in the Championship I will eat my hat. | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:51 - Apr 14 with 1990 views | Leaky |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:38 - Apr 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
If De Zerbi is managing Spurs in the Championship I will eat my hat. |
Would you like Colemans Mustard with that hat sir! |  | | |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:52 - Apr 14 with 1987 views | homer_123 |
Spurs are not a big club. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:54 - Apr 14 with 1975 views | homer_123 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 07:55 - Apr 14 by EddyJ |
I suspect his stock is lower than last time we got promoted.
We floundered in the prem last time. We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year. There have been accusations of us being over-coached. He probably needs to keep us up and perhaps build for a season after that if he wants to attract a mid-table prem team.
That said, he may feel he has taken us as far as he can. He may feel his relationship with the Ipswich fans has been a bit cooler this year than previously. He may fancy a new challenge, perhaps abroad. |
His stock is higher than most, even if lower than last time.
"We have been workmanlike rather than freeflowing this year." - yes and for good reason. https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/6
As for the relationship with fans, there is no evidence this has changed or soured, in any way. | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 08:55 - Apr 14 with 1962 views | hype313 |
Looking around at potential vacancies, the only ones I can see as available will be Palace and Newcastle, Palace would be tempting but if we were to throw big money this summer if we go up then he might feel like staying put, Newcastle will want to go for someone with a big name I'd imagine.
Obviously there's the car crash which is Chelsea, if they finish on a whimper then wouldn't be surprised to see Roseinior going, but is it a job McKenna would relish taking over? |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:09 - Apr 14 with 1888 views | Guthrum |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:38 - Apr 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
If De Zerbi is managing Spurs in the Championship I will eat my hat. |
I doubt that McKenna would be, either, if he had the option of staying at a promoted ITFC in the Prem. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:09 - Apr 14 with 1880 views | Blue_In_Boston |
His stock is still high at Championship level, I am not sure any established Premier League club would have him on their radar. [Post edited 14 Apr 9:42]
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:13 - Apr 14 with 1857 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| McKenna thoughts… on 07:51 - Apr 14 by ringwoodblue |
Too early to say. Let’s get the job done first and then we can have this discussion. |
Always makes me uncomfortable when posters end with 'discuss' and then immediately log off and don't get involved with their own discussion too. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:15 - Apr 14 with 1849 views | dirtyboy |
As long as he has the full backing of the fans and continues to feel loved, I think he'll stay.
He's a "builder" very methodical, always has a plan and is still only 39.
He's seen the ambition of the owners and he'll want to see the full implementation of the training ground, feel that, being the first manager through the doors. That's historic stuff.
Kieran McKenna, arrived at a club midtable in League one and saw a massive turnaround, getting us promoted in quite some style in his first full season.
He then did something even more incredible, promotion to the PL. This was after the club openly admitted they were aiming for a consolidation year, then push for playoffs/promotion the season after.
We're ahead of schedule.
If he's to take us back to the PL again and do something even more incredible and keep us up, in my opinion, he cements himself as one of the all time greats at this club for taking us all on such an incredible journey.
Ipswich aren't done btw. This club can absolutely be a Bournemouth or a Brighton, challenging at the right end of the Premier League, but that absolutely takes time and all the right infrastructure in place (plus a few years of that kind of money flowing in to facilitate it).
A long way to go.
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:16 - Apr 14 with 1831 views | ParisBlue |
| McKenna thoughts… on 08:55 - Apr 14 by hype313 |
Looking around at potential vacancies, the only ones I can see as available will be Palace and Newcastle, Palace would be tempting but if we were to throw big money this summer if we go up then he might feel like staying put, Newcastle will want to go for someone with a big name I'd imagine.
Obviously there's the car crash which is Chelsea, if they finish on a whimper then wouldn't be surprised to see Roseinior going, but is it a job McKenna would relish taking over? |
Celtic.
Champuons League football, pathway to top premier league job (Brendan Rodgers, Ange), Martin O'Neil rates KM.
Whether they can afford the compensation I'm not sure, from what I understand it is putting potential suitors off. [Post edited 14 Apr 9:27]
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:21 - Apr 14 with 1795 views | Guthrum |
I think he'll want another shot at keeping Ipswich Town in the Prem. It's an as yet unrealised challenge. He's done all this prep work and getting the team to the brink of promotion. IMO we are in a better position to stay up this time.
Can't see a relegated, or escaping by the skin of their teeth, Spurs as being that attractive in comparison with a club where he has his feet firmly under the table and pretty much everything as he wants it (within reason). The places which tempted him last summer, Brighton and Chelsea, were both firmly established in the mid-to-upper part of the top tier - and neither were sufficiently attractive, even then. I think it far from certain that they will bounce straight back up, in any case.
ManU, if they part ways with Carrick, are very unlikely to then go for someone of a very similar profile. It will either be a big name or the caretaker will be made permanent (most likely in my view). | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:21 - Apr 14 with 1797 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| McKenna thoughts… on 09:09 - Apr 14 by Guthrum |
I doubt that McKenna would be, either, if he had the option of staying at a promoted ITFC in the Prem. |
Would be a tough decision to make. I would understand the logic if he did want to go but would hope he would stay. | |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:22 - Apr 14 with 1782 views | ITFC_Forever |
As with every summer since he joined us, our best business will be to keep hold of him.
I have a nagging doubt this season is his last with us - I don't think he's taken too kindly to the criticism he has got at times this season from the hard of thinking. |  |
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| McKenna thoughts… on 09:24 - Apr 14 with 1770 views | SomethingBlue |
United won't happen for him this summer, it was a serious possibility last time but that's sailed for now. The only one I'd hugely worry about is Spurs if they go down and De Zerbi crashes & burns (whatever they say about him not having a relegation release clause). KM would be a very, very obvious choice to get them out of the Championship and I imagine it would be hard for him to turn down.
Otherwise I don't see too many threats ahead this summer. And bear in mind that, if we do go up, we will be in a much better position throughout the club to give it a fist of things provided we make good decisions. | |
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