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The glass half full perspective 07:22 - Apr 20 with 968 viewsDubtractor

After both the brum and budgies games there was some chat about having bought ourselves a bit of wriggle room, the ability to slip up a little but still be in the driving seat.

Well, we've now done just that, and it is still very much in our hands. Second place with a game in hand.

If (it's all ifs!) we can beat both Charlton and WBA, then we'll be in a position where we can lose against Southampton but still be in the driving seat going into the final game. Yesterday's draw was a big disappointment in many ways, but that point could well end up being huge.


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The glass half full perspective on 07:38 - Apr 20 with 890 viewsDubtractor

Oops. Just spotted that someone else had made a similar post further down the board.

Oh well, great minds and all that.

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The glass half full perspective on 07:58 - Apr 20 with 833 viewsSteve_M

The glass half full perspective on 07:38 - Apr 20 by Dubtractor

Oops. Just spotted that someone else had made a similar post further down the board.

Oh well, great minds and all that.


It never worries those who want to tell us we're definitely losing in the play-offs to all the other three sides.

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Good attitude on 08:20 - Apr 20 with 742 viewsDyland

I'm not feeling it though Dubbers. Two extremely tricky away games and we are running on empty. The total (and I mean total) failure to match Pompey's energy was and will be a problem.

Need a bit of luck as well as fight, assuming the others don't collapse. Whilch would be our bit of luck, perhaps.

We remain oddly unconvincing for large parts of games. Especially odd when at times we look incredible!

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The glass half full perspective on 08:24 - Apr 20 with 724 viewsPioneerBlue

The concern for the rational mind is our last 4 games dont look like translating into 2ppg over the next 4 to take things away from Southampton or Millwall. Whilst we did collect points and got the derby victory weve been quite poor for big periods in all 4 recent games. Where as, form of the chasing pack is of concern to our automatic hopes. That we cant control.

I still feel we are very capable of securing the next game win. In cant see further than that at this stage, its ifs and buts. Take care or Chalton. Thats the focus.

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Good attitude on 08:24 - Apr 20 with 723 viewsReuser_is_God

Good attitude on 08:20 - Apr 20 by Dyland

I'm not feeling it though Dubbers. Two extremely tricky away games and we are running on empty. The total (and I mean total) failure to match Pompey's energy was and will be a problem.

Need a bit of luck as well as fight, assuming the others don't collapse. Whilch would be our bit of luck, perhaps.

We remain oddly unconvincing for large parts of games. Especially odd when at times we look incredible!


Wasn’t the rotation supposed to stop us running on empty?

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The glass half full perspective on 08:25 - Apr 20 with 719 viewsFrimleyBlue

Didn't help when I had a look at Charltons results at home this season

1-5 against southampton
1-2 boro
but drew with coventry and millwall,

most games are lost by 1 goal.


Us getting that first goal is incredibly important tuesday. Massive imo.

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Good attitude on 08:29 - Apr 20 with 691 viewsportmanking

Good attitude on 08:24 - Apr 20 by Reuser_is_God

Wasn’t the rotation supposed to stop us running on empty?


Indeed. It's puzzling, isn't it?

Has the rotation left too many players unconditioned for 2-3-game weeks?
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Good attitude on 08:31 - Apr 20 with 670 viewsReuser_is_God

Good attitude on 08:29 - Apr 20 by portmanking

Indeed. It's puzzling, isn't it?

Has the rotation left too many players unconditioned for 2-3-game weeks?


Not sure about that, but maybe true & also the recent injuries have to be factored in aswell.

For me the rotation is the reason we are still seeing very disjointed performances.

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Good attitude on 08:32 - Apr 20 with 667 viewsFrimleyBlue

Good attitude on 08:29 - Apr 20 by portmanking

Indeed. It's puzzling, isn't it?

Has the rotation left too many players unconditioned for 2-3-game weeks?


We don't know how fit any of our players actually are

neil came with no football this season
philogene had a long period off
azor was being played with a dead leg
cajuste either his knee is fked, or we're not letting him play to stop us signing him
Davis you can tell that month off has effected him

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Good attitude on 08:33 - Apr 20 with 667 viewsportmanking

Good attitude on 08:31 - Apr 20 by Reuser_is_God

Not sure about that, but maybe true & also the recent injuries have to be factored in aswell.

For me the rotation is the reason we are still seeing very disjointed performances.


Agree on the disjointed nature of performances.

I hate harking back to 23/24, but we made so few changes to the spine of the team. Even in these closing weeks of the season. I don't understand why we've done the opposite this time around.
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Good attitude on 08:42 - Apr 20 with 596 viewsDubtractor

Good attitude on 08:20 - Apr 20 by Dyland

I'm not feeling it though Dubbers. Two extremely tricky away games and we are running on empty. The total (and I mean total) failure to match Pompey's energy was and will be a problem.

Need a bit of luck as well as fight, assuming the others don't collapse. Whilch would be our bit of luck, perhaps.

We remain oddly unconvincing for large parts of games. Especially odd when at times we look incredible!


Not saying that I feel 100% confident, I see our shortcomings the same as anyone else, but just trying to put an optimistic lens on things.

A couple off weeks ago we'd have been delighted to he in this position, when we were the chasing team with a game in hand.

That Portsmouth game was a proper shocker, no hiding that, and we won't be getting promoted if we see a repeat of that.

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Good attitude on 08:44 - Apr 20 with 578 viewsDubtractor

Good attitude on 08:33 - Apr 20 by portmanking

Agree on the disjointed nature of performances.

I hate harking back to 23/24, but we made so few changes to the spine of the team. Even in these closing weeks of the season. I don't understand why we've done the opposite this time around.


I understand the temptation to make changes, but the changes against Portsmouth felt risky before the game, and definitely played out that way. Starting Neil, not Taylor, in a game which would be more physical, was a really poor choice.

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Good attitude on 08:45 - Apr 20 with 573 viewsportmanking

Good attitude on 08:42 - Apr 20 by Dubtractor

Not saying that I feel 100% confident, I see our shortcomings the same as anyone else, but just trying to put an optimistic lens on things.

A couple off weeks ago we'd have been delighted to he in this position, when we were the chasing team with a game in hand.

That Portsmouth game was a proper shocker, no hiding that, and we won't be getting promoted if we see a repeat of that.


I still maintain the reaction between going 1-0 down and 2-0 down at Pompey has done us. We showed no balls to roll our sleeves up and keep it to a one-goal margin before HT. Had we done so, who knows what the 2nd half could've looked like. Even a point there now looks like it could've been monumental in the bigger picture. But our lack of respect for the opponent shone through in that first 45.
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Yep on 08:46 - Apr 20 with 567 viewsDyland

Good attitude on 08:24 - Apr 20 by Reuser_is_God

Wasn’t the rotation supposed to stop us running on empty?


Unfortunately we don't have good enough backup in central midfield or up top. Obviously there's more to it than that but recruitment could have been better, with hindsight. Some supposedly very good players haven't really contributed as we'd have liked.

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Good attitude on 08:54 - Apr 20 with 535 viewsSteve_M

Good attitude on 08:31 - Apr 20 by Reuser_is_God

Not sure about that, but maybe true & also the recent injuries have to be factored in aswell.

For me the rotation is the reason we are still seeing very disjointed performances.


Injuries are a problem, Jaden is coming back after missing three months, Nunez from his second injury of the season, Burns has been almost back for about three weeks and Matusiwa is clearly not fully fit.

That we have not found adequate cover for Matusiwa and are carrying Cajuste and Akpom in the squad is a big failure of recruitment last Summer.

I don't think rotation is a problem per se but we have too many players who are either not fit enough or not confident enough to allow us to rotate properly. Add in the annoyance of Portsmouth being squeezed in now and we are stretched.

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Good attitude on 08:33 - Apr 20 by portmanking

Agree on the disjointed nature of performances.

I hate harking back to 23/24, but we made so few changes to the spine of the team. Even in these closing weeks of the season. I don't understand why we've done the opposite this time around.


For me, Greaves, Taylor and Azon need to start all of the remaining games. They've proven in recent weeks they are undoubtedly the best three options in their respective positions I think.

That then leaves the three behind the striker. We really need a couple of them to grab the bull by the horns and drag us over the line. We have been too passive too many times away from home and that needs to change in these next two games. Two games against two sides we are superior than and need to beat.
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The glass half full perspective on 09:23 - Apr 20 with 448 views_CliveBaker_

2 wins in the next 3, its a big ask but its possible.

And that assumes we'll need that many points, its possible Saints and Millwall slip up, although I wouldn't be holding my breath on it with the form Southampton are in. Its likely to have to be us that stops them if we don't get max points from the next 2.
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The glass half full perspective on 09:27 - Apr 20 with 408 viewsSomethingBlue

The glass half full perspective on 09:23 - Apr 20 by _CliveBaker_

2 wins in the next 3, its a big ask but its possible.

And that assumes we'll need that many points, its possible Saints and Millwall slip up, although I wouldn't be holding my breath on it with the form Southampton are in. Its likely to have to be us that stops them if we don't get max points from the next 2.


It's annoying that Millwall play Leicester on Friday rather than tomorrow given the Foxes will probably be down and desolate by then. In a futile last-ditch kitchen sink job you'd probably fancy Leicester. Tough week for them though, Tuesday-Friday rarely goes brilliantly so fair play if they win both.

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The glass half full perspective on 09:28 - Apr 20 with 403 viewsfranz_tyson

I've just never felt we were that good all season. And then... a week ago we find ourselves in 2nd place, 2 points clear and with 2 games in hand. So we must be good. Except we weren't really that good.

If we get promotion, then I think we're going to need a bit of help along the way. I just don't see us being that side that can put together a 3 or 4 game winning run. We've just been more consistent over the season than a juggernaut-type team like Southampton who can put in a 5 game winning spree at the right time.

I was pretty p1ssed off after Pompey as it was such a lame, dismal performance and surrendered a chance to go 5 clear ( with a game in hand), but now I'm cool whatever happens. If we miss out... then good luck to the team which had the nerves and guts to go and grab it.
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The glass half full perspective on 09:29 - Apr 20 with 399 viewsportmanking

The glass half full perspective on 09:27 - Apr 20 by SomethingBlue

It's annoying that Millwall play Leicester on Friday rather than tomorrow given the Foxes will probably be down and desolate by then. In a futile last-ditch kitchen sink job you'd probably fancy Leicester. Tough week for them though, Tuesday-Friday rarely goes brilliantly so fair play if they win both.


I fancy Stoke to get something against them tomorrow. Never an easy place to go on a midweek, as we know all too well. Leicester will roll over and have their tummies tickled on Friday, for sure.
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The glass half full perspective on 09:37 - Apr 20 with 376 viewsSomethingBlue

The glass half full perspective on 09:29 - Apr 20 by portmanking

I fancy Stoke to get something against them tomorrow. Never an easy place to go on a midweek, as we know all too well. Leicester will roll over and have their tummies tickled on Friday, for sure.


If they can be held to a draw somewhere this week it'll make a huge difference to us & open up the chance to drop points in more than one game. I think we would be able to get something at Saints, certainly a draw if that become the requirement. The better teams raise it for each other, you see it time and again (like yesterday). As said elsewhere, West Brom is probably more my concern given the timing.
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The glass half full perspective on 09:40 - Apr 20 with 350 viewsportmanking

The glass half full perspective on 09:37 - Apr 20 by SomethingBlue

If they can be held to a draw somewhere this week it'll make a huge difference to us & open up the chance to drop points in more than one game. I think we would be able to get something at Saints, certainly a draw if that become the requirement. The better teams raise it for each other, you see it time and again (like yesterday). As said elsewhere, West Brom is probably more my concern given the timing.
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If West Brom get 3 points in midweek, that would take a *lot* of pressure off. There'd be very little tension on the game from their side.

Baggies are an interesting side right now. Gone right back to basics in a proper McCarthy-esque 4-4-2. One where legs and the spare man in the middle of the park could be pivotal for us.
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