| Gary O’Neil 13:07 - Jun 9 with 12112 views | IP1Blue |
Rumours of Gary O’Neil being clubs initial preferred replacement if McKenna were to go - don’t think he would be a bad choice in all fairness |  | | |  |
| Gary O’Neil on 11:54 - Jun 11 with 1450 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Gary O’Neil on 11:40 - Jun 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Just so we're clear. You think McKenna has stiffed us to make sure we didn't get the release clause that he agreed to in his contract? |
No one is going to know the full story but I don't think the OP is far from the truth in his statement that McKenna wanted to go to Fulham - it feels like his agents definitely put feelers out via Alex Crook.
It doesn't mean than Kieran 'stiffed' us, he was just looking after his own career ( I'm of the belief a potential 2/2 relegations on his CV was the biggest factor in him not staying) and between him and the club decided the 'break' was the best move for both parties - what with Fulham being one of those clubs who could fall into a relegation fight with a poor appointment, we were also right in digging our heels in and not facilitating an easy move.
As for Gary O Neill I choose to ignore that stuff in the hope it goes away ugh... [Post edited 11 Jun 11:57]
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| Gary O’Neil on 12:00 - Jun 11 with 1386 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Gary O’Neil on 11:54 - Jun 11 by burnbudgiesburn |
No one is going to know the full story but I don't think the OP is far from the truth in his statement that McKenna wanted to go to Fulham - it feels like his agents definitely put feelers out via Alex Crook.
It doesn't mean than Kieran 'stiffed' us, he was just looking after his own career ( I'm of the belief a potential 2/2 relegations on his CV was the biggest factor in him not staying) and between him and the club decided the 'break' was the best move for both parties - what with Fulham being one of those clubs who could fall into a relegation fight with a poor appointment, we were also right in digging our heels in and not facilitating an easy move.
As for Gary O Neill I choose to ignore that stuff in the hope it goes away ugh... [Post edited 11 Jun 11:57]
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"Feels" is not facts.
Why on earth would his agents put out feelers to a talksport journo (and no-one else) when they could just call up Fulham directly?! |  |
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| Gary O’Neil on 12:01 - Jun 11 with 1376 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Gary O’Neil on 12:00 - Jun 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
"Feels" is not facts.
Why on earth would his agents put out feelers to a talksport journo (and no-one else) when they could just call up Fulham directly?! |
Yeah, its a discussion forum and this is obviously just my own take on what I think happened. | | | |
| Gary O’Neil on 12:06 - Jun 11 with 1335 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Gary O’Neil on 11:42 - Jun 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Um, for starters I haven't said I'm right on anything. I've just said there's no proof he's right. Secondly, why on earth would I accept he knows something until Gary O'Neil is here? |
He never said he would be here, just that he is a potential replacement and immediate national reporting seems to corroborate that. This stuff isn’t too difficult |  |
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| Gary O’Neil on 12:36 - Jun 11 with 1272 views | franz_tyson |
Before they got Clement, O'Neil was a favourite for the Norwich job.
Many Norwich fans were very unconvinced by him and I was hoping he might go there as i could see him taking Norwich down to L1. I can't believe 8 months later he's now favourite to be our next manager. And that's after we've been promoted to the PL.
Surely this job is seen as a top job. It's PL. How can O'Neil get overlooked for the Norwich job when they're desperate to stay in the Championship and yet he's now favourite after we've been promoted? | | | |
| Gary O’Neil on 16:40 - Jun 19 with 1035 views | IP1Blue |
| Gary O’Neil on 19:47 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well given he's not here, we don't know either way yet. So there's nothing to crow about. McKenna leaving doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over.
Feel free to bump this when it happens, but it hasn't. |
Have I still made it up? | | | |
| Gary O’Neil on 16:53 - Jun 19 with 924 views | positivity |
| Gary O’Neil on 16:40 - Jun 19 by IP1Blue |
Have I still made it up? |
i hope you have and it's an elaborate smoke screen for the real ipswich manager! | |
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| Gary O’Neil on 17:27 - Jun 19 with 811 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Gary O’Neil on 16:40 - Jun 19 by IP1Blue |
Have I still made it up? |
1. Where did I say you made it up?
2. Is he here yet?
What I took issue with was you crowing about something that hasn't happened.
Which you're doing again here, oddly.
And your brilliant def info is that O'Neil is our favoured choice... but we might choose someone else. Great, thanks for that! | |
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| Gary O’Neil on 17:47 - Jun 19 with 751 views | IP1Blue |
| Gary O’Neil on 17:27 - Jun 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
1. Where did I say you made it up?
2. Is he here yet?
What I took issue with was you crowing about something that hasn't happened.
Which you're doing again here, oddly.
And your brilliant def info is that O'Neil is our favoured choice... but we might choose someone else. Great, thanks for that! |
The one I quoted you on, literally says I’m lying 😂😂I’ll come back here Monday when he is appointed then!
I said he was our Initial preferred option but that may change- was I not right? Even Phil has said that in someone’s most recent post that was the top of our list at the start. | | | |
| Gary O’Neil on 18:01 - Jun 19 with 678 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Gary O’Neil on 17:47 - Jun 19 by IP1Blue |
The one I quoted you on, literally says I’m lying 😂😂I’ll come back here Monday when he is appointed then!
I said he was our Initial preferred option but that may change- was I not right? Even Phil has said that in someone’s most recent post that was the top of our list at the start. |
You seem to have a reading and comprehension problem. It says "McKenna leaving doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over." That's not the same as saying you ARE lying. Nowhere in this discussion have I accused you of lying. I've stated all along that we have no proof either way.
Talking of which, feel free to link me to some evidence that shows O'Neil was the top of our list at the start, because I haven't seen it... | |
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| Gary O’Neil on 22:05 - Jun 19 with 479 views | IP1Blue |
| Gary O’Neil on 18:01 - Jun 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You seem to have a reading and comprehension problem. It says "McKenna leaving doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over." That's not the same as saying you ARE lying. Nowhere in this discussion have I accused you of lying. I've stated all along that we have no proof either way.
Talking of which, feel free to link me to some evidence that shows O'Neil was the top of our list at the start, because I haven't seen it... |
“doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over” - that is essentially you accusing me of lying about Gary O’Neil.
Near enough every journalist said Gary O’Neil straight after McKenna announced he resigned.
Straight after the bus parade, McKenna said he wanted a break and then club said have 2 week holiday to think about it of which he didn’t change his mind in. In that 2 weeks / few days before the announcement, Ashton met/spoke with Gary O’Neil and was keen on him if McKenna were to leave. At that point he was the preferred option and obviously it remained that way. I don’t understand why me saying that could change if he spoke to someone else since that initial contact is also such a problem? | | | |
| Gary O’Neil on 00:04 - Jun 20 with 368 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Gary O’Neil on 22:05 - Jun 19 by IP1Blue |
“doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over” - that is essentially you accusing me of lying about Gary O’Neil.
Near enough every journalist said Gary O’Neil straight after McKenna announced he resigned.
Straight after the bus parade, McKenna said he wanted a break and then club said have 2 week holiday to think about it of which he didn’t change his mind in. In that 2 weeks / few days before the announcement, Ashton met/spoke with Gary O’Neil and was keen on him if McKenna were to leave. At that point he was the preferred option and obviously it remained that way. I don’t understand why me saying that could change if he spoke to someone else since that initial contact is also such a problem? |
“doesn't prove you weren't lying about Gary O’Neil taking over” - that is essentially you accusing me of lying about Gary O’Neil.
No, it's not.
Something not proving you weren't lying doesn't automatically mean you WERE lying. It just means it doesn't prove you weren't. I give up. If you can't understand basic English there's no point continuing.
Congrats, though, you were right. I never said you weren't... OR that you were lying. I merely said there was no evidence for it either way at the time. And I make no apologies for not blindly believing everything posted on the internet without any evidence. | |
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