| This is madness 12:33 - Jun 19 with 2031 views | BelsteadCav |
Help clean up a river and you may go to prison
It’s basically “ you made us look bad, now we’re going to prosecute “
https://www.theguardian.com/en [Post edited 19 Jun 12:55]
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| This is madness on 12:37 - Jun 19 with 1615 views | Zx1988 |
Regardless of intent, you can't just go dredging rivers and disposing of hazardous waste without a licence.
It's interesting to note that the article makes no mention of where the waste ended up. |  |
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| This is madness on 12:39 - Jun 19 with 1599 views | redrickstuhaart |
No prosecution happening and no prospect realistically of two years in prison. He did however take a digger to a piece of river without a permit, which clearly is not something you can just ignore | |
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| This is madness on 12:46 - Jun 19 with 1564 views | StokieBlue |
Have you intentionally not added the actual context of what happened?
He hired a digger and used it to essentially dredge the bottom where all manner of wildlife may live. It might also destabilise the banks depending on the river size.
That whole account is just rage bait and conspiracies (as the owner acknowledges).
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| This is madness on 12:54 - Jun 19 with 1515 views | BelsteadCav |
| This is madness on 12:37 - Jun 19 by Zx1988 |
Regardless of intent, you can't just go dredging rivers and disposing of hazardous waste without a licence.
It's interesting to note that the article makes no mention of where the waste ended up. |
It’s basically “ you made us look bad so we’re going to prosecute
https://www.theguardian.com/en | |
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| This is madness on 12:56 - Jun 19 with 1494 views | redrickstuhaart |
Nope.
Would you seriously expect no come back if you took a digger to public land and excavated?!!! | |
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| This is madness on 12:59 - Jun 19 with 1462 views | leitrimblue |
I'm gonna hire a digger and tidy up Stonehenge later Cav if you fancy giving me a hand?  |  | | |
| This is madness on 13:00 - Jun 19 with 1453 views | BelsteadCav |
| This is madness on 12:59 - Jun 19 by leitrimblue |
I'm gonna hire a digger and tidy up Stonehenge later Cav if you fancy giving me a hand? |
If by “ tiding up” you mean put it back how it was, then I’m in 🙌🏻 | |
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| This is madness on 13:02 - Jun 19 with 1427 views | leitrimblue |
| This is madness on 13:00 - Jun 19 by BelsteadCav |
If by “ tiding up” you mean put it back how it was, then I’m in 🙌🏻 |
I can't promise I'm gonna improve it but I'll give it a lash  | | | |
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| This is madness on 13:02 - Jun 19 with 1425 views | StokieBlue |
It's nothing like that.
Not showing much critical thinking here.
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| This is madness on 13:12 - Jun 19 with 1346 views | Zx1988 |
| This is madness on 13:02 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
It's nothing like that.
Not showing much critical thinking here.
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Of anyone, one would have thought that an environmental lawyer should have known all about the need for permits. | |
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| This is madness on 13:20 - Jun 19 with 1313 views | reusersfreekicks |
| This is madness on 12:46 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
Have you intentionally not added the actual context of what happened?
He hired a digger and used it to essentially dredge the bottom where all manner of wildlife may live. It might also destabilise the banks depending on the river size.
That whole account is just rage bait and conspiracies (as the owner acknowledges).
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Cos he hasn't
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| This is madness on 13:20 - Jun 19 with 1313 views | giant_stow |
I'm a bit surprised at the rough ride you're getting here Billy. THis:
“This seems to get to the nub of the problem with the EA. They do not prosecute things that they should prosecute and all they are doing is going after easy targets.”
...rings true to me, at least.
if nothing else, he's highlighted the abuse of that river / official inaction .
The big surprise to me is that he lives on a boat on the Roding - I had no idea it was navigable. |  |
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| This is madness on 13:26 - Jun 19 with 1271 views | BelsteadCav |
| This is madness on 13:20 - Jun 19 by giant_stow |
I'm a bit surprised at the rough ride you're getting here Billy. THis:
“This seems to get to the nub of the problem with the EA. They do not prosecute things that they should prosecute and all they are doing is going after easy targets.”
...rings true to me, at least.
if nothing else, he's highlighted the abuse of that river / official inaction .
The big surprise to me is that he lives on a boat on the Roding - I had no idea it was navigable. |
It’s ok
I could post “ it’s gorgeous out there in Suffolk today”
And they’d find something wrong with it.
Our country side and rivers are a mess, have been for years, I’m all for sorting it out, because the environmental agency won’t | |
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| This is madness on 13:30 - Jun 19 with 1224 views | giant_stow |
| This is madness on 13:26 - Jun 19 by BelsteadCav |
It’s ok
I could post “ it’s gorgeous out there in Suffolk today”
And they’d find something wrong with it.
Our country side and rivers are a mess, have been for years, I’m all for sorting it out, because the environmental agency won’t |
I think they'll be more of this sort action as such agencies have their funding cut and cut. | |
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| This is madness on 13:37 - Jun 19 with 1160 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is madness on 13:20 - Jun 19 by giant_stow |
I'm a bit surprised at the rough ride you're getting here Billy. THis:
“This seems to get to the nub of the problem with the EA. They do not prosecute things that they should prosecute and all they are doing is going after easy targets.”
...rings true to me, at least.
if nothing else, he's highlighted the abuse of that river / official inaction .
The big surprise to me is that he lives on a boat on the Roding - I had no idea it was navigable. |
There is no current prosecution.
It was a stunt, the response to which the lawyer will have fully expected. It might be a valid attention gaining stunt, but the reporting and spin on this is absurd. | |
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| This is madness on 13:46 - Jun 19 with 1107 views | giant_stow |
| This is madness on 13:37 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
There is no current prosecution.
It was a stunt, the response to which the lawyer will have fully expected. It might be a valid attention gaining stunt, but the reporting and spin on this is absurd. |
Out of interest, what is it about the reporting that's absurd? My Londonnews of whatever it is may be an online rag, but the Guardian write up doesn;t seem that at odds with it... | |
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| This is madness on 13:48 - Jun 19 with 1099 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is madness on 13:46 - Jun 19 by giant_stow |
Out of interest, what is it about the reporting that's absurd? My Londonnews of whatever it is may be an online rag, but the Guardian write up doesn;t seem that at odds with it... |
Guardian is far more factual than the op for instance. No objections to the former. | |
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| This is madness on 13:48 - Jun 19 with 1100 views | Swansea_Blue |
Hmm. They should have stopped short of the dredging. For all they know, there could be critical infrastructure running under or near to the river and they could (potentially) alter the hydrodynamics of the stream and lead to a threat to that infrastructure. Hypothetically of course. Of maybe they did know and there isn’t any. It’s not really a done thing in either case.
Good on them for the cleaning up part though. The EA are definitely going after an easy target here.
I think intention should matter - they’re trying to do something about the state of our rivers and streams, which have become a national embarrassment over the last decade. And….
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| This is madness on 13:58 - Jun 19 with 1009 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is madness on 13:48 - Jun 19 by Swansea_Blue |
Hmm. They should have stopped short of the dredging. For all they know, there could be critical infrastructure running under or near to the river and they could (potentially) alter the hydrodynamics of the stream and lead to a threat to that infrastructure. Hypothetically of course. Of maybe they did know and there isn’t any. It’s not really a done thing in either case.
Good on them for the cleaning up part though. The EA are definitely going after an easy target here.
I think intention should matter - they’re trying to do something about the state of our rivers and streams, which have become a national embarrassment over the last decade. And….
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EA would not have been bothered if people pitched up and collected rubbish. They turned up with a digger and then people are trying to make out that the Ea reaction is somehow extraordinary. | |
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| This is madness on 14:27 - Jun 19 with 917 views | BelsteadCav |
| This is madness on 13:58 - Jun 19 by redrickstuhaart |
EA would not have been bothered if people pitched up and collected rubbish. They turned up with a digger and then people are trying to make out that the Ea reaction is somehow extraordinary. |
Do you work for the environmental agency?
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| This is madness on 14:32 - Jun 19 with 882 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is madness on 14:27 - Jun 19 by BelsteadCav |
Do you work for the environmental agency?
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No. Do you work for an extremist misinformation peddling department of the Fuhrage organisation? | |
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| This is madness on 14:37 - Jun 19 with 859 views | Benters |
That’s Two Tier for you.
Everything is all arse about face at the moment! |  |
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| This is madness on 14:39 - Jun 19 with 836 views | Benters |
| This is madness on 12:59 - Jun 19 by leitrimblue |
I'm gonna hire a digger and tidy up Stonehenge later Cav if you fancy giving me a hand? |
Stick to your trowel Patrick! | |
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| This is madness on 14:43 - Jun 19 with 814 views | eireblue |
| This is madness on 14:37 - Jun 19 by Benters |
That’s Two Tier for you.
Everything is all arse about face at the moment! |
“Reform UK has ditched its commitment to nationalise Britain's water and energy sectors, marking a significant reversal for the party.
The policy U-turn comes just months after party leader Nigel Farage insisted that bringing half of the troubled water industry into state ownership would cost "a lot less" than the £50billion figure cited by analysts, particularly if struggling companies were permitted to collapse first.” |  | | |
| This is madness on 14:44 - Jun 19 with 805 views | Dubtractor |
| This is madness on 13:20 - Jun 19 by giant_stow |
I'm a bit surprised at the rough ride you're getting here Billy. THis:
“This seems to get to the nub of the problem with the EA. They do not prosecute things that they should prosecute and all they are doing is going after easy targets.”
...rings true to me, at least.
if nothing else, he's highlighted the abuse of that river / official inaction .
The big surprise to me is that he lives on a boat on the Roding - I had no idea it was navigable. |
Both things can be true though.
That the EA seem to go after the easy wins, rather than the real criminals, is undoubtedly true. I see that in my line of work, and it has beem the case for years.
Equally, you can't just hire a digger and dredge a river without getting the right permits, and arrangements to do so. |  |
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