| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham 08:59 - Jun 22 with 3057 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich | Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham as he wants to play more. Personally I'd be more than happy to sign him or a year's loan. A quality young player with experience. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 09:00 - Jun 22 | Nthsuffolkblue | Certainly that is the sort of signing that would help. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 09:54 - Jun 22 | ReusersTown | I rate him, not sure he's really right for the sort of dogfight we're setting ourselves up for with O'Neil though |  | |  |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 10:08 - Jun 22 | Vaughan8 |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 09:54 - Jun 22 by ReusersTown | I rate him, not sure he's really right for the sort of dogfight we're setting ourselves up for with O'Neil though |
Most Spurs players I'd agree but he looks quite tenacious with some skill. I'd definitely take him. |  | |  |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 10:22 - Jun 22 | TRUE_BLUE123 | Not going to happen |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 10:23 - Jun 22 | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 10:22 - Jun 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Not going to happen |
He will get regular football at a more established club or move abroad presumably. EDIT: and herein is the problem. This is the sort of level of player we need but, if we aren't able to get them, we need to identify ones that are of that quality but below the radar. Sunderland managed it with a few but it isn't going to be easy to do. [Post edited 22 Jun 10:25]
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:01 - Jun 22 | darkhorse28 |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 10:23 - Jun 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | He will get regular football at a more established club or move abroad presumably. EDIT: and herein is the problem. This is the sort of level of player we need but, if we aren't able to get them, we need to identify ones that are of that quality but below the radar. Sunderland managed it with a few but it isn't going to be easy to do. [Post edited 22 Jun 10:25]
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Every side at this level that’s established has done it several levels above us .., that’s what repeating the same process with the same people is likely to fail. GON adding value in alternative (French) markets, and Ashton allowing him to add value is likely our only hope. This isn’t a good squad (at this level) and that’s part of McKennas legacy, he ran fast, he coached the gap at times, but he hasn’t built a group anywhere near capable at this level. It’s a big challenge. If Ashton still want to be the talent ID voice in the room, we will really struggle…, that’s our ceiling, his ability to talent ID, and compared to others at this level, as a measure, he’s 4/10 on a good day. Being 7 or 8/10 in the EFL doesn’t even come close at this level…, it’s whole new relationships, networks and markets. Apparently he’s ’learned the lessons’ - come August we’ll know. The money, status, and I think GON is slightly better than McKenna at this level .., so we just need the players. And that’s the hardest bit .., they have to be on nobodies radar by definition or other more than established clubs do step in …, that’s what makes execs elite at this level. Ashton has never done it. In 35 years he’s never looked like being able to do it…, so let’s see. Can be grow and develop and learn…, or pathologically move towards his fears of losing control and power, and limit himself with his own weaknesses. Mick Courts profile suggests the latter - not dynamic, no threat to Ashton making all the decisions. But let’s see. GON French Revolution is our only hope (IMO). |  | |  |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:17 - Jun 22 | SitfcB |
I swear to god some of our fans are delusional. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:18 - Jun 22 | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:17 - Jun 22 by SitfcB |
I swear to god some of our fans are delusional. |
All this manager talk put a stop to people posting mental transfer suggestions. It is nice to have it back tbh. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:24 - Jun 22 | BondiBlue |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 09:54 - Jun 22 by ReusersTown | I rate him, not sure he's really right for the sort of dogfight we're setting ourselves up for with O'Neil though |
From what i've seen he's exactly the sort of player who would be up for a dogfight |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:46 - Jun 22 | Portman_Pie | I REALLY rate him, but he'll likely command a £35M fee - and have clubs queuing up abroad to sign him. Only 20 yrs old, fantastic player. Just not what we need currently - and wouldn't be short of more attractive offers. |  |
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| This is like my Jarrod Bowen suggestion Sitters.. on 11:48 - Jun 22 | unstableblue |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:17 - Jun 22 by SitfcB |
I swear to god some of our fans are delusional. |
.. unstable and delusional |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:50 - Jun 22 | bartyg |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:18 - Jun 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 | All this manager talk put a stop to people posting mental transfer suggestions. It is nice to have it back tbh. |
What do you mean? As an aside I'm hearing Mbappe is struggling to get fans onside at Real Madrid, perhaps he would like to rekindle his career in Suffolk? |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:54 - Jun 22 | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:50 - Jun 22 by bartyg | What do you mean? As an aside I'm hearing Mbappe is struggling to get fans onside at Real Madrid, perhaps he would like to rekindle his career in Suffolk? |
He is a decent player but not sure where he gets in. Wouldn't be on his favoured left side and not sure he has the physical profile to be a number 9. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:08 - Jun 22 | redrickstuhaart |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:01 - Jun 22 by darkhorse28 | Every side at this level that’s established has done it several levels above us .., that’s what repeating the same process with the same people is likely to fail. GON adding value in alternative (French) markets, and Ashton allowing him to add value is likely our only hope. This isn’t a good squad (at this level) and that’s part of McKennas legacy, he ran fast, he coached the gap at times, but he hasn’t built a group anywhere near capable at this level. It’s a big challenge. If Ashton still want to be the talent ID voice in the room, we will really struggle…, that’s our ceiling, his ability to talent ID, and compared to others at this level, as a measure, he’s 4/10 on a good day. Being 7 or 8/10 in the EFL doesn’t even come close at this level…, it’s whole new relationships, networks and markets. Apparently he’s ’learned the lessons’ - come August we’ll know. The money, status, and I think GON is slightly better than McKenna at this level .., so we just need the players. And that’s the hardest bit .., they have to be on nobodies radar by definition or other more than established clubs do step in …, that’s what makes execs elite at this level. Ashton has never done it. In 35 years he’s never looked like being able to do it…, so let’s see. Can be grow and develop and learn…, or pathologically move towards his fears of losing control and power, and limit himself with his own weaknesses. Mick Courts profile suggests the latter - not dynamic, no threat to Ashton making all the decisions. But let’s see. GON French Revolution is our only hope (IMO). |
Please stop making things up. There is absolutely nothing, other than some bitter Bristol fans, on which to base a claim that Ashton is the self appointed talent identification "voice in the room". None. People pick up on this nonsense, and begin to believe it (the same old social media issue which makes this country ungovernable). You are damaging the club you claim to support with your disingenuous nonsense. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:21 - Jun 22 | Guthrum |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:46 - Jun 22 by Portman_Pie | I REALLY rate him, but he'll likely command a £35M fee - and have clubs queuing up abroad to sign him. Only 20 yrs old, fantastic player. Just not what we need currently - and wouldn't be short of more attractive offers. |
I think a £35m fee wouldn't be beyond us this time around (spread over 5 years). Also, box-to-box midfielder is a role where we need to strenghten and would be worth serious investment. However, at just 20 years old, how ready is he to be a first choice starter in the Prem? Depends upon the wages we would offer and how much competition from bigger clubs. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:26 - Jun 22 | Portman_Pie |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:21 - Jun 22 by Guthrum | I think a £35m fee wouldn't be beyond us this time around (spread over 5 years). Also, box-to-box midfielder is a role where we need to strenghten and would be worth serious investment. However, at just 20 years old, how ready is he to be a first choice starter in the Prem? Depends upon the wages we would offer and how much competition from bigger clubs. |
Oh - agreed we could certainly do with a box to box CM - but at 20 - I'd think we need a bit more physicality in the stature of the player we look to bring in. Someone who has more of a presence. He'd compliment someone of that type - but again, don't think as a team - we would hold much interest to a player who could 100% feature for a tope flight side week in week out in Germany, Spain, Italy etc. He'd likely want a club in the higher regions of one of those over fighting relegation with us I'd imagine. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:33 - Jun 22 | Chris_ITFC |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:17 - Jun 22 by SitfcB |
I swear to god some of our fans are delusional. |
Yep! |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:41 - Jun 22 | Guthrum |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 12:26 - Jun 22 by Portman_Pie | Oh - agreed we could certainly do with a box to box CM - but at 20 - I'd think we need a bit more physicality in the stature of the player we look to bring in. Someone who has more of a presence. He'd compliment someone of that type - but again, don't think as a team - we would hold much interest to a player who could 100% feature for a tope flight side week in week out in Germany, Spain, Italy etc. He'd likely want a club in the higher regions of one of those over fighting relegation with us I'd imagine. |
Indeed. I also don't think we'd spend that much on someone who wasn't a guaranteed starter or difference-maker. Plus he doesn't seem to score many goals. A new manager could lead to a change in policy, but Town have long relied on players other than strikers to contribute. |  |
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| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 13:22 - Jun 22 | WeWereZombies |
| Bergvall has asked to leave Tottenham on 11:01 - Jun 22 by darkhorse28 | Every side at this level that’s established has done it several levels above us .., that’s what repeating the same process with the same people is likely to fail. GON adding value in alternative (French) markets, and Ashton allowing him to add value is likely our only hope. This isn’t a good squad (at this level) and that’s part of McKennas legacy, he ran fast, he coached the gap at times, but he hasn’t built a group anywhere near capable at this level. It’s a big challenge. If Ashton still want to be the talent ID voice in the room, we will really struggle…, that’s our ceiling, his ability to talent ID, and compared to others at this level, as a measure, he’s 4/10 on a good day. Being 7 or 8/10 in the EFL doesn’t even come close at this level…, it’s whole new relationships, networks and markets. Apparently he’s ’learned the lessons’ - come August we’ll know. The money, status, and I think GON is slightly better than McKenna at this level .., so we just need the players. And that’s the hardest bit .., they have to be on nobodies radar by definition or other more than established clubs do step in …, that’s what makes execs elite at this level. Ashton has never done it. In 35 years he’s never looked like being able to do it…, so let’s see. Can be grow and develop and learn…, or pathologically move towards his fears of losing control and power, and limit himself with his own weaknesses. Mick Courts profile suggests the latter - not dynamic, no threat to Ashton making all the decisions. But let’s see. GON French Revolution is our only hope (IMO). |
Good grief, some of that almost made sense. The bit about 'adding value in alternative (French) markets'. If you mean that five months or so managing Strasbourg has allowed him to look at most of the starting elevens and then substitutes in Ligue Un so that he knows a bit about who we could buy or get in on loan (whether French or just playing that league) then that sounds right. Ultimately who we get in is up to the Board and dependant upon what deals can be done but it would be strange not to tap O'Neill's brain for input. |  |
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