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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... 12:37 - Jul 14 with 2632 viewsRyorry

Deleted that tweet, author was factually incorrect with his 'evidence'. Inter Miami (Messi's current club) have actually lost 3 & drawn 2 when Elfath was reffing, not won all their games under him as the author had stated. Just to replicate the officials for the game, they are -

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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:25 - Jul 15 with 412 viewsGlasgowBlue

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:16 - Jul 15 by nrb1985

Top 15 is hardly a boast is it ffs? We are talking about reffing one of the absolute elite games in global football here. A WC semi final with two teams who don't really like each other much.

I have seen a reasonable amount of MLS, not loads but probably just as much as the casual fan, and even seen a couple of games live in NYC.

The best player pre Messi was Carlos Vela...

I don't need some Opta guff to tell me it's not really up to the same level as England v Argentina in a world cup semi final.

Are you confidently, hand on heart, telling me you wouldn't feel more comfortable with a ref with Champions League experience? Of which I think there was two.
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That’s a different matter, I’m directly addressing you condescending attitude to the MSL as being a “pub league” and therefore a referee from that league isn’t good enough to officiate tonight’s game.

It’s not a “pub league”

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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:41 - Jul 15 with 385 viewsnrb1985

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 08:25 - Jul 15 by GlasgowBlue

That’s a different matter, I’m directly addressing you condescending attitude to the MSL as being a “pub league” and therefore a referee from that league isn’t good enough to officiate tonight’s game.

It’s not a “pub league”


Factually speaking it's not a pub league if you want to be pedantic. But clearly "pub league" is just a colloquialism for not a particularly good league. Which it isn't.

I also think optically, given the various things that have surrounded FIFA, even pre dating the actual start of the tournament by clearing Ronaldo to play - optically it looks a bit silly to give us a MLS ref for a game involving Messi, who as mentioned is the poster child for American soccer.

Why would anybody deliberately open themselves up to scrutiny like that unless there's an agenda? Even if you only believe that agenda to be that they are giving an American ref a big game because they're the host.

If Infantino told me the sky was blue I still go outside to check and then I'd check again.
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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 11:03 - Jul 15 with 329 viewsRyorry

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 07:54 - Jul 15 by Zx1988

You alright mate? You seem to be getting surprisingly aggressive over something as trivial as a referee appointment.

The chap from El Salvador didn't do too bad a job last night, and his league is of a lower standard than MLS.


“something as trivial as a referee appointment.”

“You cannot be serious”. You are on a football platform. Ref for England v Arg in a WC semi in the USA in 2026 is *not* “trivial”!

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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 11:56 - Jul 16 with 229 viewsDevereuxxx

He never had control of the game, let Argentina get away with their darks arts, the first person he booked was an England player which was frankly absurd, and VAR checks for simple mistakes (Alvarez blasting it into the side netting and a corner being awarded??) seemed to not be happening in this game.

Predictably out of his depth.
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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:02 - Jul 16 with 218 viewsRyorry

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 11:56 - Jul 16 by Devereuxxx

He never had control of the game, let Argentina get away with their darks arts, the first person he booked was an England player which was frankly absurd, and VAR checks for simple mistakes (Alvarez blasting it into the side netting and a corner being awarded??) seemed to not be happening in this game.

Predictably out of his depth.



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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:17 - Jul 16 with 167 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 12:02 - Jul 16 by Ryorry



That's not anywhere near conclusive evidence that that is a punch.
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Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:31 - Jul 16 with 152 viewsRyorry

Ref for Eng v Arg semi ... on 13:17 - Jul 16 by ArnoldMoorhen

That's not anywhere near conclusive evidence that that is a punch.


True, but iirc, the R5l commentator/s referred to it as a punch.

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