| This is genuinely horrific 19:38 - Aug 23 with 10331 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Remember in the good old days when all you had to worry about kids getting into was drugs or 'The Word' with Terry Christian?
https://www.theguardian.com/me |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 13:20 - Aug 24 with 1048 views | leitrimblue |
| This is genuinely horrific on 13:07 - Aug 24 by DJR |
The rot started when those who did national service started bringing children into the world.  |
Argh man, its a vicious vicious circle  |  | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 13:49 - Aug 24 with 1001 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| This is genuinely horrific on 13:03 - Aug 24 by leitrimblue |
I instantly thought of one and then remembered were quite rightly not allowed to use that R word anymore, so Repugnants will have to do. |
Conform.
Works on so many levels. |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 13:56 - Aug 24 with 976 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 13:00 - Aug 24 by leitrimblue |
Urrrrrrmmm, it's the firearms issue again..
I'm not sure I want um armed..  |
i don't think they'd shoot that straight, but can't be too careful with that type!
give them suction bows and arrows, so they feel like they're being soldiery |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 14:06 - Aug 24 with 948 views | balcombeblue |
Looks like I have missed some fun this morning! damn work.
Social media companies have some responsibility, but my actuarial life means I have to put it out there that the accident hump (a peak in mortality between ages 16-25) existed well before social media
As ever, it's not straightforward as to where the responsibility sits. But a combination of all causes mentioned with individual being at the top. |  | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:10 - Aug 24 with 927 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:06 - Aug 24 by balcombeblue |
Looks like I have missed some fun this morning! damn work.
Social media companies have some responsibility, but my actuarial life means I have to put it out there that the accident hump (a peak in mortality between ages 16-25) existed well before social media
As ever, it's not straightforward as to where the responsibility sits. But a combination of all causes mentioned with individual being at the top. |
we've always had joyriders, difference is they're now being encouraged and monetised for clicks by rich and powerful social media owners with zero accountability | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 14:10 - Aug 24 with 923 views | balcombeblue |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:06 - Aug 24 by balcombeblue |
Looks like I have missed some fun this morning! damn work.
Social media companies have some responsibility, but my actuarial life means I have to put it out there that the accident hump (a peak in mortality between ages 16-25) existed well before social media
As ever, it's not straightforward as to where the responsibility sits. But a combination of all causes mentioned with individual being at the top. |
Just replying to my own post (a bit lame I know), but some research links the start of smart phone use to an increase in the mortality spike, but the effect of it is unclear. Whether it comes from issues like cyber bullying or increased risk taking isn't that well established. Often many more years of data would be needed as (fourntuately) mortality rates are still very low in this range.
Lots of modern factors actually suggest the 'hump' is flattening out, as young people are more 'accident aware' than maybe before. | | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:12 - Aug 24 with 916 views | balcombeblue |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:10 - Aug 24 by positivity |
we've always had joyriders, difference is they're now being encouraged and monetised for clicks by rich and powerful social media owners with zero accountability |
I don't really know much about the inner mechanics of social media. Are those clicks incentivised financially? | | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:15 - Aug 24 with 902 views | Libero |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:12 - Aug 24 by balcombeblue |
I don't really know much about the inner mechanics of social media. Are those clicks incentivised financially? |
for a minority, yes - but the money per view is so small it has to be millions upon millions to be worth anything, monitisation of social media is more holistic than just āyou recieve X pounds for Y clicksā |  | | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 14:17 - Aug 24 with 886 views | balcombeblue |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:15 - Aug 24 by Libero |
for a minority, yes - but the money per view is so small it has to be millions upon millions to be worth anything, monitisation of social media is more holistic than just āyou recieve X pounds for Y clicksā |
ah, ok. So it's more a general blame of the impact of social media on the lives of young people and the decisions they make? | | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:18 - Aug 24 with 885 views | DJR |
I suppose it could be argued that traffic cop TV programmes (which have been on the go for a long time) glamourise, or at least make entertainment out of, joyriding and the like. [Post edited 24 Aug 14:20]
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| This is genuinely horrific on 14:19 - Aug 24 with 882 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:12 - Aug 24 by balcombeblue |
I don't really know much about the inner mechanics of social media. Are those clicks incentivised financially? |
they can be, yes.
many influencers and controversialists make very good money by doing so.
just giving a wider platform of notoriety is a boon for the look-at-me types engaging in this kind of behaviour. previously they'd just be encouraged and looked up to by a very small circle of mates | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 14:32 - Aug 24 with 827 views | balcombeblue |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:18 - Aug 24 by DJR |
I suppose it could be argued that traffic cop TV programmes (which have been on the go for a long time) glamourise, or at least make entertainment out of, joyriding and the like. [Post edited 24 Aug 14:20]
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Sometimes I wonder if people jump to quick solutions to things as a mechanism to counter the shock of what they see?
I remember the hand gun ban after Dunblane. The UK has one of the lowest gun crime rates in the world, but there is no certainty if that's causal. | | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:17 - Aug 24 with 763 views | Ryorry |
Multiple news sources now reporting that in this particular case, those involved in causing the crash are linked with organised crime, and that thereās no evidence of it being filmed for social media -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 15:18 - Aug 24 with 754 views | J2BLUE |
| This is genuinely horrific on 12:07 - Aug 24 by Benters |
Oh crumbs not you as well J2š |
I can't help the fact you're wrong on this one buh |  | | |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:19 - Aug 24 with 762 views | noggin |
| This is genuinely horrific on 07:59 - Aug 24 by Benters |
I didnāt do any National Service,but my parents taught me right from wrong and to respect people
My parents taught me to respect animals and the countryside.
Kids have to much time on their hands and about a million times more technology in their hands than I did at that age.
BB. |
"my parents taught me right from wrong and to respect people"
It clearly didn't work because now you support, and vote for, a racist political party. Just sayin buh. |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 15:44 - Aug 24 with 681 views | Benters |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:19 - Aug 24 by noggin |
"my parents taught me right from wrong and to respect people"
It clearly didn't work because now you support, and vote for, a racist political party. Just sayin buh. |
My parents were both Labour voters, mind you Labour was a much better party back then it was for the workers.
I hate to see what itās become now. |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 15:55 - Aug 24 with 649 views | Libero |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:17 - Aug 24 by balcombeblue |
ah, ok. So it's more a general blame of the impact of social media on the lives of young people and the decisions they make? |
undoubtedly some young people will be seeking ācloutā - essentially social kudos for recieving a number of views/likes/whatever.
Thereās no doubt that social media is inherently harming young people and their development, but just shared about the more holistic nature of monetisation, as itās not a simple as some will have you believe.
Iāve a friend who recieves hundreds of thousands of views every month and makes an absolute pittance from it, however the sponsorships offered and other brand deals, mean that itās then a decent wage- albeit in a highly unpredictable market and ever changing landscape.
I make a small amount of my wages from social media, but itās not paid out on views, itās companies paying me to make and/or collaborate social media posts on their behalf to advertise their products/games/books/events/etc - youāre talking anything between Ā£280 - Ā£500 a video after agent fee. But yeah, not a penny from views per sayā¦ [Post edited 24 Aug 15:58]
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| This is genuinely horrific on 16:02 - Aug 24 with 628 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:44 - Aug 24 by Benters |
My parents were both Labour voters, mind you Labour was a much better party back then it was for the workers.
I hate to see what itās become now. |
who's the labour party for now then in your opinion?
what policies for workers do reform/restore have which are better? | |
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| Always amazes me.... on 16:46 - Aug 24 with 556 views | Bloots |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:17 - Aug 24 by Ryorry |
Multiple news sources now reporting that in this particular case, those involved in causing the crash are linked with organised crime, and that thereās no evidence of it being filmed for social media -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv |
...how often some people's immediate reaction to things like this is to look for somewhere alternate to place the blame, or at best look for reasoning behind it.
Usually these terrible things happen purely because some people are scum and the blame lies squarely at the feet of the perpetrators.
That certainly appears to be the case in this instance. |  |
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| Always amazes me.... on 16:53 - Aug 24 with 534 views | bartyg |
| Always amazes me.... on 16:46 - Aug 24 by Bloots |
...how often some people's immediate reaction to things like this is to look for somewhere alternate to place the blame, or at best look for reasoning behind it.
Usually these terrible things happen purely because some people are scum and the blame lies squarely at the feet of the perpetrators.
That certainly appears to be the case in this instance. |
"People do bad things because they're bad people" is the sort of logic I'd expect from a 6 year old. |  |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 16:53 - Aug 24 with 519 views | Benters |
| This is genuinely horrific on 14:10 - Aug 24 by positivity |
we've always had joyriders, difference is they're now being encouraged and monetised for clicks by rich and powerful social media owners with zero accountability |
We have always had joy riders yes but not who drive down major roads the wrong way for da bantz killing Innocent people. | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 16:54 - Aug 24 with 529 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:17 - Aug 24 by Ryorry |
Multiple news sources now reporting that in this particular case, those involved in causing the crash are linked with organised crime, and that thereās no evidence of it being filmed for social media -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv |
the same article also says that saddington had several social media posts of joyriding.
bit of a chicken and egg here, probably never be able to prove a causal link or an absence of a causal link.
don't personally see the harm in removing posts like this from social media. reduce glorification of scummy behaviour where you can | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 16:56 - Aug 24 with 518 views | positivity |
| This is genuinely horrific on 16:53 - Aug 24 by Benters |
We have always had joy riders yes but not who drive down major roads the wrong way for da bantz killing Innocent people. |
that's exactly what i'm saying.
social media glory pushes them towards more and more extremes. would you like posts glorifying this kind of behaviour taken down? | |
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| This is genuinely horrific on 16:56 - Aug 24 with 518 views | soupytwist |
| This is genuinely horrific on 15:17 - Aug 24 by Ryorry |
Multiple news sources now reporting that in this particular case, those involved in causing the crash are linked with organised crime, and that thereās no evidence of it being filmed for social media -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/liv |
Would be interesting to know whether those arrested and charged today would have been without this terrible incident having taken place. |  | | |
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