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I've been listening to Radio 4, Radio 5 and the World Service today, and the tone of various interviews on the Palestine issue seems somehow different.
There have been some extraordinarily desperate (in my opinion) and awful rants from apologists for Israel's regime (Angela Epstein, West Bank settlers etc.) and on the other hand similarly extraordinary declarations from the likes of Erhud Olmert and other Jewish people who come across as so frustrated and angry with the misuse of the term 'antisemitism'. Notable that one or two BBC presenters have shown real frustration with some of the pro-Israel rants too.
Not sure what effect the UK, France, Canada et al will have on the actors who are really in control of the outcomes, but something certainly seems to have shifted in our media as a result of Labour's shift in stance. About fkn time.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
I have had a feeling for the longest time that we are generally effed as humans but it's difficult to not ignore that it really has switched now. I try my hardest now to just zone out because of how much hate and derision that is being created and a good amount of the public are just lapping it all up. Not enough kindness in this world and just live in my own little bubble. I'm pleased something has been done and said but same with all governments, it's too late and never enough. Not enough good eggs in politics.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 08:16 - Sep 10 with 1831 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 23:00 - Sep 9 by Reus30
I have had a feeling for the longest time that we are generally effed as humans but it's difficult to not ignore that it really has switched now. I try my hardest now to just zone out because of how much hate and derision that is being created and a good amount of the public are just lapping it all up. Not enough kindness in this world and just live in my own little bubble. I'm pleased something has been done and said but same with all governments, it's too late and never enough. Not enough good eggs in politics.
I try to be positive but there isn't much to be positive about.
This cracking song from Bob Marley perhaps best sums things up.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 10 with 1761 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 23:00 - Sep 9 by Reus30
I have had a feeling for the longest time that we are generally effed as humans but it's difficult to not ignore that it really has switched now. I try my hardest now to just zone out because of how much hate and derision that is being created and a good amount of the public are just lapping it all up. Not enough kindness in this world and just live in my own little bubble. I'm pleased something has been done and said but same with all governments, it's too late and never enough. Not enough good eggs in politics.
From the 1980s onwards, we had several decades of promises that the world was getting better. Emerging from the crises of the 1970s, the rapid advance of new technology, rising standards of living, then the fall of the Iron Curtain and a new era of a seemingly safer world. The forced positivity all got a bit overheated.
Then it all started to turn sour. New global threats (some the results of old issues), the economic hits they brought, the rising cost of living, wealth inequality, damaging financial crashes (the dot.com boom and bust, the sub-prime and banking crisis), climate change, mass migration caused by all those. But, above all, alienation from governments who made wonderful promises, but were unable to deliver even basic improvements, often not seeming to care much.
With the world getting darker, as is so often the case, people turned inward and nationalism gained force, xenophobia, verging into racism. The have-nots were induced to jealous hatred of other have-nots. Frustrated rage at unfulfilled promises stoked up by people pretending they wanted to break the system to benefit the self-diagnosed downtrodden, but really intent on plunder.
The constant erosion of good education has not left people equipped to avoid the danger. The media has consistently raised expectations and stoked dissatisfaction, chasing sales/clicks. Our leaders have done little to set standards or reflect reality.
It's taken four decades of rise and fall to get here. It will take time to get out of this. We're better at doing it without major wars nowadays, but the risk of strife is there.
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 10 by Guthrum
From the 1980s onwards, we had several decades of promises that the world was getting better. Emerging from the crises of the 1970s, the rapid advance of new technology, rising standards of living, then the fall of the Iron Curtain and a new era of a seemingly safer world. The forced positivity all got a bit overheated.
Then it all started to turn sour. New global threats (some the results of old issues), the economic hits they brought, the rising cost of living, wealth inequality, damaging financial crashes (the dot.com boom and bust, the sub-prime and banking crisis), climate change, mass migration caused by all those. But, above all, alienation from governments who made wonderful promises, but were unable to deliver even basic improvements, often not seeming to care much.
With the world getting darker, as is so often the case, people turned inward and nationalism gained force, xenophobia, verging into racism. The have-nots were induced to jealous hatred of other have-nots. Frustrated rage at unfulfilled promises stoked up by people pretending they wanted to break the system to benefit the self-diagnosed downtrodden, but really intent on plunder.
The constant erosion of good education has not left people equipped to avoid the danger. The media has consistently raised expectations and stoked dissatisfaction, chasing sales/clicks. Our leaders have done little to set standards or reflect reality.
It's taken four decades of rise and fall to get here. It will take time to get out of this. We're better at doing it without major wars nowadays, but the risk of strife is there.
Interesting and accurate analysis as usual Guthers
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:42 - Sep 10 with 1670 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 10 by Guthrum
From the 1980s onwards, we had several decades of promises that the world was getting better. Emerging from the crises of the 1970s, the rapid advance of new technology, rising standards of living, then the fall of the Iron Curtain and a new era of a seemingly safer world. The forced positivity all got a bit overheated.
Then it all started to turn sour. New global threats (some the results of old issues), the economic hits they brought, the rising cost of living, wealth inequality, damaging financial crashes (the dot.com boom and bust, the sub-prime and banking crisis), climate change, mass migration caused by all those. But, above all, alienation from governments who made wonderful promises, but were unable to deliver even basic improvements, often not seeming to care much.
With the world getting darker, as is so often the case, people turned inward and nationalism gained force, xenophobia, verging into racism. The have-nots were induced to jealous hatred of other have-nots. Frustrated rage at unfulfilled promises stoked up by people pretending they wanted to break the system to benefit the self-diagnosed downtrodden, but really intent on plunder.
The constant erosion of good education has not left people equipped to avoid the danger. The media has consistently raised expectations and stoked dissatisfaction, chasing sales/clicks. Our leaders have done little to set standards or reflect reality.
It's taken four decades of rise and fall to get here. It will take time to get out of this. We're better at doing it without major wars nowadays, but the risk of strife is there.
That's a really good compact summary of what's happened to the human race in my lifetime.
'Frustrated rage at unfulfilled promises stoked up by people pretending they wanted to break the system to benefit the self-diagnosed downtrodden, but really intent on plunder. ' really sums up the modus operandi of the populist conmen Tr*mp and F*ra*ge.
But we've lost touch with reality - we were scared sh!tless when I was kid at the end of the Cold War, but by all accounts even more so during the 60s and 70s. Now we face the same risks, plus arguably worse ones in CC, AI, and bio-weapons, and yet we seem to treat things like a movie that will have a heroic happy ending in a couple of hours, at which point we can go home and get a pizza and a new pair of trainers delivered.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 10 by Guthrum
From the 1980s onwards, we had several decades of promises that the world was getting better. Emerging from the crises of the 1970s, the rapid advance of new technology, rising standards of living, then the fall of the Iron Curtain and a new era of a seemingly safer world. The forced positivity all got a bit overheated.
Then it all started to turn sour. New global threats (some the results of old issues), the economic hits they brought, the rising cost of living, wealth inequality, damaging financial crashes (the dot.com boom and bust, the sub-prime and banking crisis), climate change, mass migration caused by all those. But, above all, alienation from governments who made wonderful promises, but were unable to deliver even basic improvements, often not seeming to care much.
With the world getting darker, as is so often the case, people turned inward and nationalism gained force, xenophobia, verging into racism. The have-nots were induced to jealous hatred of other have-nots. Frustrated rage at unfulfilled promises stoked up by people pretending they wanted to break the system to benefit the self-diagnosed downtrodden, but really intent on plunder.
The constant erosion of good education has not left people equipped to avoid the danger. The media has consistently raised expectations and stoked dissatisfaction, chasing sales/clicks. Our leaders have done little to set standards or reflect reality.
It's taken four decades of rise and fall to get here. It will take time to get out of this. We're better at doing it without major wars nowadays, but the risk of strife is there.
The digital world generally has been a massive double-edged sword, which I think will eventually become thoroughly destructive - social media disinformation (an odd example being that few people trust cute animal videos any more because so many are AI generated - ie a basis of mistrust in everyone and everything has developed).
We used to go outside and do stuff. Now so many (including me!) spend increasing amounts of that time looking at screens on our sofas. It’s an addiction that impacts on health, politics, climate change.
I’m no expert, but always instinctively felt AI would destroy the human race. When humans have been too stupid to prevent wars, and ensure shelter, water & food are adequately available for every person on earth, then they’re also stupid enough not to be able to control other monsters they create.
Abraham and Szor were two of the four co-directors of No Other Land, which won the Oscar for best documentary in 2025.
Drawing a connection between the two films, the directors said: “In the film No Other Land, we spent five years, together with [Palestinian co-directors] Basel Adra and Hamdan Ballal, documenting the army destroying Palestinian homes in order to paint a larger picture of a system of occupation and ethnic supremacy aimed at the removal of Palestinians from the West Bank.
“In NAZA, we are similarly connecting the dots of a system, gathering the testimonies of two dozen intelligence officers and soldiers and depicting the military systems used to perpetrate what a UN commission and the world’s leading human rights groups have described as a genocide.”
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 16:40 - Sep 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna
Yeah the UK imports over a trillion USD of goods every year, that’s chicken feed. And the sanctions largely only target the illegal settlements, not wider exports.
UK retailers can and do apply their own individual sanctions though - I remember about 10 years ago asking Fodder, a large farm shop & craft sales type store & cafe in Harrogate, when they’d have fresh figs back in stock, and them saying they’d banned all Israeli goods.
Would add also a big well done to Milliband - that was a great speech. Also shows another dimension of the value of diversity of backgrounds of people in government.
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 13:18 - Sep 10 by Ryorry
UK retailers can and do apply their own individual sanctions though - I remember about 10 years ago asking Fodder, a large farm shop & craft sales type store & cafe in Harrogate, when they’d have fresh figs back in stock, and them saying they’d banned all Israeli goods.
Would add also a big well done to Milliband - that was a great speech. Also shows another dimension of the value of diversity of backgrounds of people in government.
They can do. But as I said earlier this is only a mild extension of existing (very narrow Sanctions). A few bits of fruit aren’t going to bother a country who’ve been in perpetual war for over two years and seen their economy shrink by 20pc.
By contrast, the comprehensive Russian oil and Gas Sanctions are thought to have cost them half a trillion dollars (almost the entire economy of Petro-state Norway). This is very much tokenistic, and interesting to see the reaction versus when Sanctions were implemented by Starmer (who I don’t even have a lot of time for).
Would note also that Starmers’s govt ceased weapons export licenses for any that could be used offensively in Gaza. That is a far more significant development, but clearly he didn’t his personal brand on par with Milliband.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 09:44 - Sep 12 with 1327 views
Abraham and Szor were two of the four co-directors of No Other Land, which won the Oscar for best documentary in 2025.
Drawing a connection between the two films, the directors said: “In the film No Other Land, we spent five years, together with [Palestinian co-directors] Basel Adra and Hamdan Ballal, documenting the army destroying Palestinian homes in order to paint a larger picture of a system of occupation and ethnic supremacy aimed at the removal of Palestinians from the West Bank.
“In NAZA, we are similarly connecting the dots of a system, gathering the testimonies of two dozen intelligence officers and soldiers and depicting the military systems used to perpetrate what a UN commission and the world’s leading human rights groups have described as a genocide.”
‘They know the house they are bombing is full of children’: NAZA’s directors on their devastating film about Israeli intelligence
On a darkened rooftop in Tel Aviv, Israeli intelligence officers outline the details of their work. These men tell us how they helped develop an AI mapping tool that trawled for phone signals and recommended apartment buildings in Gaza to bomb. Indirectly, they admit, they are responsible for thousands of deaths, but they never spoke up because that wasn’t their place. “My role is technical,” says one. “I’m just a small cog,” says another.
NAZA – directed by the Israeli film-makers Rachel Szor and Yuval Abraham and produced by the Guardian – is a chilling documentary about a mass slaughter that was authorised at the highest levels of government. But it is also, primarily, about the process, the system, the little links in the killing chain. Szor and Abraham build their film around the accounts of 24 anonymised military and intelligence insiders. NAZA, we learn, is an acronym used by the intelligence service to indicate how many civilians it expects to die in an airstrike on Gaza. The Israel Defense Forces prefer to target Hamas terrorists in their homes at night – and if they live with their family, or in heavily populated neighbourhoods, too bad. At one point, a source claims, approval was given to kill 500 NAZA for one Hamas member.
But Ed Miliband says Israel has the right to defend itself, so that's OK then.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 13:41 - Sep 17 with 1110 views
When it comes to Palestine and the cancellation of views and people, the following two cases are far more significant and disturbing than the cancellations discussed in the very long thread.
But unsurprisingly they will garner little in the way of publicity or traction; the first case being a follow up to my two preceding posts which (as with much I post) went down like a lead balloon in terms of provoking much in the way of reaction.
"Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday that he would seek new laws allowing Israel to strip citizenship from people who “smear” Israeli soldiers, escalating the campaign against the Oscar-winning film-makers behind the Gaza documentary NAZA, who have faced threats from senior government and military officials and groups of far-right Israelis gathering outside their families’ homes."
"As the threats against the directors intensified, film-makers and human rights groups voiced support for the pair.
In a joint statement, 43 local human rights organisations urged Israeli authorities to stop what they described as incitement and threats against the film-makers, and not to prosecute either them or their sources.
“The institutional response to the film and the threats against its creators are characteristic of dictatorial regimes,” said the statement, signed by groups including Peace Now, Adalah, B’Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights Israel and Breaking the Silence.
More than 1,500 Israeli film-makers have also signed a petition defending “freedom of expression and creation” and expressing solidarity with Szor and Abraham.
“In recent days, we have witnessed an unprecedented smear and incitement campaign against the film-makers, with the line between this rhetoric and physical violence or threats to their lives narrowing rapidly,” the petition said.
The signatories said the role of art and journalism was to reflect society and encourage debate, “even when facing a harsh reality”, and called for the film to be released in Israel so audiences could judge it for themselves."
"The Palestinian Authority has condemned a US decision to deny visas to President Mahmoud Abbas and dozens of officials ahead of next week's UN General Assembly, marking the second consecutive year Washington has blocked his attendance."
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 08:19 - Sep 25 with 895 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 13:41 - Sep 17 by DJR
When it comes to Palestine and the cancellation of views and people, the following two cases are far more significant and disturbing than the cancellations discussed in the very long thread.
But unsurprisingly they will garner little in the way of publicity or traction; the first case being a follow up to my two preceding posts which (as with much I post) went down like a lead balloon in terms of provoking much in the way of reaction.
"Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday that he would seek new laws allowing Israel to strip citizenship from people who “smear” Israeli soldiers, escalating the campaign against the Oscar-winning film-makers behind the Gaza documentary NAZA, who have faced threats from senior government and military officials and groups of far-right Israelis gathering outside their families’ homes."
"As the threats against the directors intensified, film-makers and human rights groups voiced support for the pair.
In a joint statement, 43 local human rights organisations urged Israeli authorities to stop what they described as incitement and threats against the film-makers, and not to prosecute either them or their sources.
“The institutional response to the film and the threats against its creators are characteristic of dictatorial regimes,” said the statement, signed by groups including Peace Now, Adalah, B’Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights Israel and Breaking the Silence.
More than 1,500 Israeli film-makers have also signed a petition defending “freedom of expression and creation” and expressing solidarity with Szor and Abraham.
“In recent days, we have witnessed an unprecedented smear and incitement campaign against the film-makers, with the line between this rhetoric and physical violence or threats to their lives narrowing rapidly,” the petition said.
The signatories said the role of art and journalism was to reflect society and encourage debate, “even when facing a harsh reality”, and called for the film to be released in Israel so audiences could judge it for themselves."
"The Palestinian Authority has condemned a US decision to deny visas to President Mahmoud Abbas and dozens of officials ahead of next week's UN General Assembly, marking the second consecutive year Washington has blocked his attendance."
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As predicted, my post garnered precious little reaction but interesting to note that the film about the deliberate killing of civilians will in due course be made available free on the Guardian website.
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 08:19 - Sep 25 by DJR
As predicted, my post garnered precious little reaction but interesting to note that the film about the deliberate killing of civilians will in due course be made available free on the Guardian website.
Still, Bibi said yesterday that it is the opposite of genocide, so that's OK then.
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'Speaking on Thursday, Abraham and Szor said: “We made this film out of a sense of obligation to use our position as Israelis to examine the systems behind the mass killing of Palestinian civilians for which our country is responsible.
“The threats from the Israeli government to revoke our citizenship and the death threats do not change that and will not stop the film. We thank our colleagues for the solidarity and look forward to sharing NAZA all over the world very soon.”'
Brave people like this who stand up in the name of truth and openness against the oppression of their own governments and other murderous groups within their own country deserve the thanks and respect of the whole human race.
Perhaps the tide is turning.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 08:19 - Sep 25 by DJR
As predicted, my post garnered precious little reaction but interesting to note that the film about the deliberate killing of civilians will in due course be made available free on the Guardian website.
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 08:19 - Sep 25 by DJR
As predicted, my post garnered precious little reaction but interesting to note that the film about the deliberate killing of civilians will in due course be made available free on the Guardian website.
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 09:56 - Sep 25 by balcombeblue
I would like to comment, but fear that it sends the thread down a certain bad route.
I think it is perfectly possible to think the situation in Gaza is awful, without labelling it a genocide.
I would say that the plight of the Palestinians is more akin to ethnic cleansing than genocide. It's clear that the intention in both Gaza and the West Bank is to make daily life so unbearable that the Palestinians move on. I'm not sure that's a great deal better to be honest. It's certainly not the opposite of genocide, whatever that means?
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:32 - Sep 25 with 680 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 09:56 - Sep 25 by balcombeblue
I would like to comment, but fear that it sends the thread down a certain bad route.
I think it is perfectly possible to think the situation in Gaza is awful, without labelling it a genocide.
And you will note that I didn't call it that, and never have done because I prefer to let justice take its course.
Having said that, some scholars and legal bodies have called it that.
And there is an ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.
Similar arrest warrants were sought against three Hamas commanders but they were all killed.
Finally, GB has called Netanyahu a war criminal but I have never done so, preferring instead to concentrate on the actions while justice takes its course, although that will probably never happen.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:09 - Sep 25 with 636 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 25 by Blueschev
I would say that the plight of the Palestinians is more akin to ethnic cleansing than genocide. It's clear that the intention in both Gaza and the West Bank is to make daily life so unbearable that the Palestinians move on. I'm not sure that's a great deal better to be honest. It's certainly not the opposite of genocide, whatever that means?
Yes, indeed. I am not sure there is an opposite.
I think I hold very specific circumstances to use the word genocide due to the historical consequences. I know you wouldn't do that and hold the claim in good faith, but some people do in order to attack jews.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:14 - Sep 25 with 618 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:32 - Sep 25 by DJR
And you will note that I didn't call it that, and never have done because I prefer to let justice take its course.
Having said that, some scholars and legal bodies have called it that.
And there is an ICC arrest warrant against Netanyahu for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024.
Similar arrest warrants were sought against three Hamas commanders but they were all killed.
Finally, GB has called Netanyahu a war criminal but I have never done so, preferring instead to concentrate on the actions while justice takes its course, although that will probably never happen.
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It's a simple majority needed for an arrest warrant. Also noting ones was issued to a Hamas commander. I agree about justice taking it's course.
I am not arguing for or against the issuing of the warrant, except that a number of ICC panel members may have their own gallery to play to.
The South African government used the genocide claim to the UN to deflect from their disastrous management of their own country.
'Similar arrest warrants were sought against three Hamas commanders but they were all killed.' It's good to know the IDF got 3 of them.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:15 - Sep 25 with 609 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 10:05 - Sep 25 by Blueschev
I would say that the plight of the Palestinians is more akin to ethnic cleansing than genocide. It's clear that the intention in both Gaza and the West Bank is to make daily life so unbearable that the Palestinians move on. I'm not sure that's a great deal better to be honest. It's certainly not the opposite of genocide, whatever that means?
One difficulty with proving genocide is proving intent.
This from Wikipedia.
"To establish genocide, perpetrators must be shown to have had the dolus specialis, or specific intent, to destroy a particular national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, in whole or in part. Unlike broader war crimes or crimes against humanity, genocidal intent necessitates a deliberate aim to eliminate the targeted group rather than merely displace or harm its members."
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:25 - Sep 25 with 586 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:15 - Sep 25 by DJR
One difficulty with proving genocide is proving intent.
This from Wikipedia.
"To establish genocide, perpetrators must be shown to have had the dolus specialis, or specific intent, to destroy a particular national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, in whole or in part. Unlike broader war crimes or crimes against humanity, genocidal intent necessitates a deliberate aim to eliminate the targeted group rather than merely displace or harm its members."
I would say that Ben-Gvir and others in the current Israeli government have certainly expressed genocidal intent. And there is clearly an assertive effort from the Israelis to extinguish any possibility of Palestinian nationhood.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:31 - Sep 25 with 566 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:25 - Sep 25 by Blueschev
I would say that Ben-Gvir and others in the current Israeli government have certainly expressed genocidal intent. And there is clearly an assertive effort from the Israelis to extinguish any possibility of Palestinian nationhood.
And maybe the evidence in the film will play its part too.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:55 - Sep 25 with 521 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 11:14 - Sep 25 by balcombeblue
It's a simple majority needed for an arrest warrant. Also noting ones was issued to a Hamas commander. I agree about justice taking it's course.
I am not arguing for or against the issuing of the warrant, except that a number of ICC panel members may have their own gallery to play to.
The South African government used the genocide claim to the UN to deflect from their disastrous management of their own country.
'Similar arrest warrants were sought against three Hamas commanders but they were all killed.' It's good to know the IDF got 3 of them.
Such killings in clearly aren't the same as extra-judicial killings but I would always prefer that people were brought to justice for war crimes, something that happened with Milosovic.
Of course, that is easier said than done.
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Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 13:12 - Sep 25 with 443 views
Today feels somehow different, at least in the UK media on 09:56 - Sep 25 by balcombeblue
I would like to comment, but fear that it sends the thread down a certain bad route.
I think it is perfectly possible to think the situation in Gaza is awful, without labelling it a genocide.
Putting aside that deliberate targeting of children alone IS very close to genocide, would you settle for total ethnic cleansing with ongoing methodical mass murder thrown in? All backed up with layers of bullsh!t and covered over with shameful international conspiracy and the extremely flexible deployment of the very sadly rather devalued blanket of 'antisemitism'?
It's not a 'situation' - that sounds almost passive - it's an ongoing genocide perpetrated by a western-backed state right under the noses of the international community, or it's the watered down version above.
Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
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) that sanctions are completely off the table when it comes to what Israel has done in Gaza. 
