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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:48 - Sep 24 with 1383 viewsGlasgowBlue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:43 - Sep 24 by Whos_blue

FFS.

It beggars belief really.


Weird behaviour. Especially as he is a Muslim Arab. Should face a lengthy ban imo. Although an Iranian did a similar “gun firing” gesture in the World Cup and wasn’t suspended so who knows. UEFA may take a different stance to FIFA.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:01 - Sep 24 with 1351 viewsvapour_trail

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:47 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue

To me it looks like he’s playing snooker rather than aiming a gun, but I’m sure the ref had a better look at it than me from a picture on the BBC.

Beggars belief but then is also so believable. I hadn’t seen this when I posted a bit earlier about the case for a ban. The case just got bigger.


The case hasn’t got bigger.

They should be kicked out because of their genocide. Not because one of their young players made a bit of a dick of himself.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:03 - Sep 24 with 1329 viewsSwansea_Blue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:01 - Sep 24 by vapour_trail

The case hasn’t got bigger.

They should be kicked out because of their genocide. Not because one of their young players made a bit of a dick of himself.


Yeah, that’s true. This is nothing compared to the actual case and I shouldn’t have over-egged it. The case stands quite clearly on their genocide against Palestinians.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:11 - Sep 24 with 1309 viewseirannach_gorm

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:47 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue

To me it looks like he’s playing snooker rather than aiming a gun, but I’m sure the ref had a better look at it than me from a picture on the BBC.

Beggars belief but then is also so believable. I hadn’t seen this when I posted a bit earlier about the case for a ban. The case just got bigger.


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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:14 - Sep 24 with 1300 viewsWhos_blue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 23:03 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue

Yeah, that’s true. This is nothing compared to the actual case and I shouldn’t have over-egged it. The case stands quite clearly on their genocide against Palestinians.


It is an odd one.
I have no knowledge of the criteria of who or why a country gets banned.
Russia have invaded a neighbour and continue their onslaught and are banned.
Israel seem determined to keep going until the total annihilation of Palestine and are not banned.
I'm not sure I've ever seen or heard any explanation why one is in and one is out.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:47 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue

To me it looks like he’s playing snooker rather than aiming a gun, but I’m sure the ref had a better look at it than me from a picture on the BBC.

Beggars belief but then is also so believable. I hadn’t seen this when I posted a bit earlier about the case for a ban. The case just got bigger.


You are probably right but in the current turbulent situation caused by UEFAs inability to enforce a legitimate ban on Israel and doubling down on teams playing them, it was an accident waiting to happen. There is a microscope on these games and the football authorities are totally to blame. This does not auger well for the RoI game.
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:29 - Sep 25 with 1124 viewsGlasgowBlue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:47 - Sep 24 by Swansea_Blue

To me it looks like he’s playing snooker rather than aiming a gun, but I’m sure the ref had a better look at it than me from a picture on the BBC.

Beggars belief but then is also so believable. I hadn’t seen this when I posted a bit earlier about the case for a ban. The case just got bigger.


According to this community note it is a snooker shot. And something he often does. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to condemn him.





I did think it odd that an Arab Muslim would be doing a gun celebration. Perhaps those comparing a Muslim to a grunting pig may want to edit their post before being accused of Islamophobia?

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:39 - Sep 25 with 1103 viewsBenters

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:29 - Sep 25 by GlasgowBlue

According to this community note it is a snooker shot. And something he often does. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to condemn him.





I did think it odd that an Arab Muslim would be doing a gun celebration. Perhaps those comparing a Muslim to a grunting pig may want to edit their post before being accused of Islamophobia?

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It looks more like a pool cue to me than gun.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:46 - Sep 25 with 1095 viewsgiant_stow

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:29 - Sep 25 by GlasgowBlue

According to this community note it is a snooker shot. And something he often does. I wish I hadn’t been so quick to condemn him.





I did think it odd that an Arab Muslim would be doing a gun celebration. Perhaps those comparing a Muslim to a grunting pig may want to edit their post before being accused of Islamophobia?

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What a revealing incident.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:56 - Sep 25 with 1065 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:46 - Sep 25 by giant_stow

What a revealing incident.


His snooker action seems to have changed considerably between those two pictures and not sure I've ever seen anyone close an eye playing pool.
But anyhow they shouldn't be playing soooo....

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:22 - Sep 25 with 1029 viewsWestStanderLaLaLa

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:56 - Sep 25 by BanksterDebtSlave

His snooker action seems to have changed considerably between those two pictures and not sure I've ever seen anyone close an eye playing pool.
But anyhow they shouldn't be playing soooo....


Maybe lose the kneeling and recoil as well to help avoid misconceptions

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:25 - Sep 25 with 1018 viewsvapour_trail

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:22 - Sep 25 by WestStanderLaLaLa

Maybe lose the kneeling and recoil as well to help avoid misconceptions


Looks like the ref has called that one wrong to me.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:39 - Sep 25 with 982 viewsDubtractor

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:25 - Sep 25 by vapour_trail

Looks like the ref has called that one wrong to me.


Yeah. Looks more like a potting the ball thing.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:46 - Sep 25 with 960 viewsSmoresy

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:22 - Sep 25 by WestStanderLaLaLa

Maybe lose the kneeling and recoil as well to help avoid misconceptions


Maybe but I feel sorry for him that he's been accused of this, much as I disagree with Israel's continued involvement in international sport. Resting a pole in an open bridge and pushing forwards the rear hand it is a poor way to imitate firing a rifle for me anyway (don't see the attempt to imitate recoil personally).
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:49 - Sep 25 with 949 viewsgiant_stow

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 07:56 - Sep 25 by BanksterDebtSlave

His snooker action seems to have changed considerably between those two pictures and not sure I've ever seen anyone close an eye playing pool.
But anyhow they shouldn't be playing soooo....


The fingers pointing down makes it a pool shot. Even the 'recoil'is just like bashing a ball in down the pub. The dirty pig.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:55 - Sep 25 with 934 viewsWestStanderLaLaLa

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:46 - Sep 25 by Smoresy

Maybe but I feel sorry for him that he's been accused of this, much as I disagree with Israel's continued involvement in international sport. Resting a pole in an open bridge and pushing forwards the rear hand it is a poor way to imitate firing a rifle for me anyway (don't see the attempt to imitate recoil personally).


I’m happy to give the benefit of the doubt that it was a flourish when potting the black but remove the corner flag, you give the ref the chance to yellow card you.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:06 - Sep 25 with 916 viewsSmoresy

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:55 - Sep 25 by WestStanderLaLaLa

I’m happy to give the benefit of the doubt that it was a flourish when potting the black but remove the corner flag, you give the ref the chance to yellow card you.


For sure (sympathy was more that very many people now believe he did something very ugly).
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:24 - Sep 25 with 882 viewsBlueschev

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 19:31 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue

And with so many examples of genocides through the ages, Holodomor, the Cambodian Genocide, the Armenian Genocide, the Rwandan Genocide, Assad's Syria or Saddam's Iraq, Ione has to wonder why people are so keen to use the comparison with the Nazis when condemning the actions of the world's only Jewish state? It's as if people want to attack them as Jews rather than attack them for their actions.


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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:25 - Sep 25 with 865 viewsGlasgowBlue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:24 - Sep 25 by Blueschev

Saddam Hussein was portrayed as a modern Hitler all the time!


Sadam wasn’t Jewish.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:25 - Sep 25 with 872 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 08:55 - Sep 25 by WestStanderLaLaLa

I’m happy to give the benefit of the doubt that it was a flourish when potting the black but remove the corner flag, you give the ref the chance to yellow card you.


Especially when it’s about a minute after you’ve scored having already celebrated with teammates and then jogged 15 yards to do it

I think the gun/cue can be debated and deserves benefit of the doubt but arguably yellow justified even if you remove the political element!

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:29 - Sep 25 with 847 viewsBlueschev

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:25 - Sep 25 by GlasgowBlue

Sadam wasn’t Jewish.


Apologies, totally misread your point.
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:32 - Sep 25 with 832 viewsleitrimblue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 19:31 - Sep 24 by GlasgowBlue

And with so many examples of genocides through the ages, Holodomor, the Cambodian Genocide, the Armenian Genocide, the Rwandan Genocide, Assad's Syria or Saddam's Iraq, Ione has to wonder why people are so keen to use the comparison with the Nazis when condemning the actions of the world's only Jewish state? It's as if people want to attack them as Jews rather than attack them for their actions.


I would suggest its clearly due to it being the most famous historical genocide by absolute miles and the genocide that all other genocides are compared to.

All the genocides you list would all have been compared to and measured against the most famous historical genocide and as will all future genocides. But im pretty sure you know that.

The best way to avoid comparisons with previous sickening genocidal regimes is to avoid committing genocide
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:39 - Sep 25 with 805 viewsleitrimblue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 22:11 - Sep 24 by baxterbasics

The point of the post is absolutely not to compare Israel with Nazi Germany. But I think you knew that, and decided to spew anyway.


What was the darker day?

Playing a game against Nazi Germany in 1936 or against the genocidal state of Israel in 2026.

It couldn't be any clearer. Its a direct comparison. Strange enough that yer trying to deny it when the evidence is right before your eyes
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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:56 - Sep 25 with 757 viewsGlasgowBlue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:32 - Sep 25 by leitrimblue

I would suggest its clearly due to it being the most famous historical genocide by absolute miles and the genocide that all other genocides are compared to.

All the genocides you list would all have been compared to and measured against the most famous historical genocide and as will all future genocides. But im pretty sure you know that.

The best way to avoid comparisons with previous sickening genocidal regimes is to avoid committing genocide


And the best way to avoid accusations of antisemitism and deliberately targeting the Israeli state as Jews is to avoid comparing their actions to the nazis when there are plenty of less problematic examples you use. Especially the reasons have been clearly pointed out.

The everyone can condemn the appalling actions of the Israeli state without any issues of holocaust inversion.

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Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 10:01 - Sep 25 with 735 viewsleitrimblue

Israel v Ireland already going well then… on 09:56 - Sep 25 by GlasgowBlue

And the best way to avoid accusations of antisemitism and deliberately targeting the Israeli state as Jews is to avoid comparing their actions to the nazis when there are plenty of less problematic examples you use. Especially the reasons have been clearly pointed out.

The everyone can condemn the appalling actions of the Israeli state without any issues of holocaust inversion.


I will risk the accusations for the sake of historical accuracy. Has will countless historians, both present and future.

If you don't wish to be compared with abhorrent genocidal states then don't commit genocide
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