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Guess the artist?
I’m sure this wasn’t pre planned at all! Absolutely shameful use of planned commercial revenue. |  |
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Why can't a deliberate act be a mistake?
Why would an apology be hypocritical? |
Oh come on, he knew exactly what he was doing and why. Just as Richard Burgon MP delivered his ‘from the rivers to the sea’ chant to an adoring audience during one of the recent election campaigns.
I’m not getting into this. If you believe that was a mistake, while you are entitled to your view, there’s little point in debating it with you. |  | | |
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Oh come on, he knew exactly what he was doing and why. Just as Richard Burgon MP delivered his ‘from the rivers to the sea’ chant to an adoring audience during one of the recent election campaigns.
I’m not getting into this. If you believe that was a mistake, while you are entitled to your view, there’s little point in debating it with you. |
you can make mistakes, and be sincerely apologetic about them later
look at some of bowie's comments if you think it's unique to mr. macklemore |  |
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so every single charity in the world is smug as they doesn't give money to all people?
what a weird statement! |
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you can make mistakes, and be sincerely apologetic about them later
look at some of bowie's comments if you think it's unique to mr. macklemore |
I repeat, it was no mistake. He didn’t go out there wearing Mr Punch hat with bells, a crocodile and a string of sausages. He dressed up as a crude stereotype character Julius Streicher, editor of Der Sturmer in the 1930s, would have recognised.
And I never claimed anything was unique to Macklemore.
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Deletion and bans incoming in 3…2.. |
You’d think people would let Phil have at least the weekend off wouldn’t you? |  |
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You surely can’t be this naive? Bloody hell. He had one hit about 14 years ago, probably the same time he dressed up like that doing nazi salutes. He’s suddenly relevant again now though eh. |
Perhaps he will show solidarity with Palestinians by performing at Rawabi, in the West Bank, It's a nice venue. And since he’s such a big advocate for the LBGTQ community he could sing “Same Love”. He could even replicate his 2014 Grammy’s performance when a bunch of same sex couples got married. [Post edited 26 Sep 14:40]
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Perhaps he will show solidarity with Palestinians by performing at Rawabi, in the West Bank, It's a nice venue. And since he’s such a big advocate for the LBGTQ community he could sing “Same Love”. He could even replicate his 2014 Grammy’s performance when a bunch of same sex couples got married. [Post edited 26 Sep 14:40]
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Likewise see UNRWA employees. | |
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Has this gone straight to a ticketing system then ? I thought it would be register for a ballot and wait to receive a code first just like the Oasis tour ? |  | | |
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Perhaps he will show solidarity with Palestinians by performing at Rawabi, in the West Bank, It's a nice venue. And since he’s such a big advocate for the LBGTQ community he could sing “Same Love”. He could even replicate his 2014 Grammy’s performance when a bunch of same sex couples got married. [Post edited 26 Sep 14:40]
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Sorry, just to clarify:
A) You feel like you can only show solidarity to something by visiting that place?
B) You don’t feel like Macklemore, as an advocate for the LGBTQ+ community, can also be anti-genocide? He’s not capable of supporting both causes?
C) You already know this but I’m sure some of the more gullible people on here still take you at your word, Rawabi is only able to be accessed via Israeli controlled area C. Do you think this Israeli government and military would allow Macklemore, his supporting artists, his crew and fans, to access Rawabi without disruption? | | | |
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I repeat, it was no mistake. He didn’t go out there wearing Mr Punch hat with bells, a crocodile and a string of sausages. He dressed up as a crude stereotype character Julius Streicher, editor of Der Sturmer in the 1930s, would have recognised.
And I never claimed anything was unique to Macklemore.
This is my last comment on this and that individual. |
who decides who can be forgiven? lennon made plenty of anti-semitic remarks, bowie avowed fascism at one point
i think sincere apologies and no return to that behaviour are to be applauded, you don't just cancel them for a past mistake | |
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who decides who can be forgiven? lennon made plenty of anti-semitic remarks, bowie avowed fascism at one point
i think sincere apologies and no return to that behaviour are to be applauded, you don't just cancel them for a past mistake |
It's not a case of canceling Macklemore. But as I posted when this whole Ed Sheeran story broke, it’s fair to wonder whether “Free Palestine” is just a socially and politically acceptable way for Macklemore to express the same base prejudice as he did when dressing up like this.
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It's not a case of canceling Macklemore. But as I posted when this whole Ed Sheeran story broke, it’s fair to wonder whether “Free Palestine” is just a socially and politically acceptable way for Macklemore to express the same base prejudice as he did when dressing up like this.
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i think the macklemore who said
“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters: criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality.
So I say Free Palestine, I say Free Lebanon, I say Free Cuba, I say Free Congo, Free Sudan, I say Free all people in America living in fear of this terrorist organization, ICE. None of us will be free until we are all free."
is very different to the one who made that appalling mistake,
just like the lennon making anti-semitic jokes was very different to the latter-day peace-and-lover,
just like the hitler-praising bowie was very different from the latter-day humanitarian
baddiel wore blackface, the beastie boys made some appalling sexist and ablist remarks.
who decides who gets cancelled and who gets forgiven? sincere apologies and personal growth should be applauded | |
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i think the macklemore who said
“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters: criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality.
So I say Free Palestine, I say Free Lebanon, I say Free Cuba, I say Free Congo, Free Sudan, I say Free all people in America living in fear of this terrorist organization, ICE. None of us will be free until we are all free."
is very different to the one who made that appalling mistake,
just like the lennon making anti-semitic jokes was very different to the latter-day peace-and-lover,
just like the hitler-praising bowie was very different from the latter-day humanitarian
baddiel wore blackface, the beastie boys made some appalling sexist and ablist remarks.
who decides who gets cancelled and who gets forgiven? sincere apologies and personal growth should be applauded |
Very well said.
Best of luck. |  |
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i think the macklemore who said
“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters: criticism of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is a criticism of you. My message is for peace; love for all human beings to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality.
So I say Free Palestine, I say Free Lebanon, I say Free Cuba, I say Free Congo, Free Sudan, I say Free all people in America living in fear of this terrorist organization, ICE. None of us will be free until we are all free."
is very different to the one who made that appalling mistake,
just like the lennon making anti-semitic jokes was very different to the latter-day peace-and-lover,
just like the hitler-praising bowie was very different from the latter-day humanitarian
baddiel wore blackface, the beastie boys made some appalling sexist and ablist remarks.
who decides who gets cancelled and who gets forgiven? sincere apologies and personal growth should be applauded |
"“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters......"
Is there a word similar to mansplaining which can be applied to people talking in an over simplified and condescending way to a minority community? | |
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"“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters......"
Is there a word similar to mansplaining which can be applied to people talking in an over simplified and condescending way to a minority community? |
how should he have phrased it to not get cancelled?
how would lennon and bowie have said it in a way that they get forgiven?
it seems we have some self-elected board police who've decided that mr. macklemore is unforgiveable, but who elected them? [Post edited 26 Sep 17:26]
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"“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters......"
Is there a word similar to mansplaining which can be applied to people talking in an over simplified and condescending way to a minority community? |
FFS. | |
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FFS. |
No, I don't think that's the word I was looking for. Besides, that's an abbreviation of three words. Maybe Goysplaining or Gentilesplaining.
But perhaps the words of Jewish musician P!nk should be noted:
“I let it go, because that’s what we do. We let it go. Then last weekend he stood in front of a stadium full of music-loving families, with violent images from a war on the screens, dedicated a song to the movement of his choice, and then took the mic to tell all of the Jews in the stadium that it wasn’t about them. You don’t get to decide that for us.” | |
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No, I don't think that's the word I was looking for. Besides, that's an abbreviation of three words. Maybe Goysplaining or Gentilesplaining.
But perhaps the words of Jewish musician P!nk should be noted:
“I let it go, because that’s what we do. We let it go. Then last weekend he stood in front of a stadium full of music-loving families, with violent images from a war on the screens, dedicated a song to the movement of his choice, and then took the mic to tell all of the Jews in the stadium that it wasn’t about them. You don’t get to decide that for us.” |
why does pink, get to decide that "criticism of apartheid" is criticism of all of the jews in the stadium?
surely it's just mr. macklemore saying his criticism of the israeli government's actions is not a criticism of the jewish people in general, which seems like the opposite of anti-semitism? | |
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why does pink, get to decide that "criticism of apartheid" is criticism of all of the jews in the stadium?
surely it's just mr. macklemore saying his criticism of the israeli government's actions is not a criticism of the jewish people in general, which seems like the opposite of anti-semitism? |
Things are getting so bloody twisted it makes me sick. | |
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why does pink, get to decide that "criticism of apartheid" is criticism of all of the jews in the stadium?
surely it's just mr. macklemore saying his criticism of the israeli government's actions is not a criticism of the jewish people in general, which seems like the opposite of anti-semitism? |
That isn't what she said. She said Macklemore doesn't get to decide.
Speaking of apartheid, there is much to criticise the Israeli state for but apartheid isn't correct. Arabs serve as Members of Parliament (their role in a coalition in the next months may see Netanyahu end up in prison), the judiciary (An Arab judge may well be the one to carry out that sentence), the civil service, the police force, the IDF, the national football team (it was a Muslim Arab-Israeli player Sayed Abu Farhi, who was unfairly sent off against Austria) and many other positions in Israeli society. It's not apartheid. | |
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That isn't what she said. She said Macklemore doesn't get to decide.
Speaking of apartheid, there is much to criticise the Israeli state for but apartheid isn't correct. Arabs serve as Members of Parliament (their role in a coalition in the next months may see Netanyahu end up in prison), the judiciary (An Arab judge may well be the one to carry out that sentence), the civil service, the police force, the IDF, the national football team (it was a Muslim Arab-Israeli player Sayed Abu Farhi, who was unfairly sent off against Austria) and many other positions in Israeli society. It's not apartheid. |
macklemore isn't deciding what jewish people should think, he's clarifying his intention that his dislike of the israeli government is not a dislike of jews in general. the opposite of anti-semitism.
ben-gvir and netanyahu's government definitely has elements of apartheid, do you think all people in israel are treated equally under the law? | |
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"“To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters......"
Is there a word similar to mansplaining which can be applied to people talking in an over simplified and condescending way to a minority community? |
At this point you're just coming across as desperate and entirely unworthy of engagement. |  |
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No, I don't think that's the word I was looking for. Besides, that's an abbreviation of three words. Maybe Goysplaining or Gentilesplaining.
But perhaps the words of Jewish musician P!nk should be noted:
“I let it go, because that’s what we do. We let it go. Then last weekend he stood in front of a stadium full of music-loving families, with violent images from a war on the screens, dedicated a song to the movement of his choice, and then took the mic to tell all of the Jews in the stadium that it wasn’t about them. You don’t get to decide that for us.” |
Full quote....
"...to tell all of the Jews in the stadium that it wasn’t about them. You don’t get to decide that for us....that's Glasser's job" | |
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Macklemore is the sort of musician where you separate the art from the artist the other way around. You make allowances for the fact that his music is fooking terrible because he seems like a genuinely decent bloke. [Post edited 25 Sep 18:27]
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