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Town 2nd in the 'real' table 10:22 - Oct 12 with 2267 viewsVanDusen

I asked Chat GPT to give me a Premier League table excluding all results of the self-styled 'Big Six' who have the massive protections of FFP to create their glass ceiling, obvs. And we are second behind Brighton - which, even at this early stage is absolutely amazing! Well done Town.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:35 - Oct 12 with 2125 viewsFlittonBlue

Another metric as such is looking at the handicap betting markets which gave us a handicap of +44 points at the start of the season - we are currently 4th favourites in this behind Hull (+52), Brighton (+23) and Brentford (+29) indicating significantly outperforming expectations

On the flip side Man U (+8), Liverpool (+7) and Villa (+18) are badly underperforming pre season expectations according to this market

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:37 - Oct 12 with 2094 viewsITFC_Essex

If you take all the other teams out we finish top everytime.

Celtic did that in Scotland for a while.

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:41 - Oct 12 with 2059 viewsRyorry

But in the real world, we have to play the accepted ‘top 6’ twice - and some of them are currently performing below expectations, like ‘pool (who had 3 regular starters missing due to injuries yesterday).

Therefore the actual table is the *real* “real” table …

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:42 - Oct 12 with 2054 viewsITFCson

My £100 on a top half finish at 18/1 is looking a little more realistic
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:57 - Oct 12 with 1984 viewsSWLondonBlue93

I'm happy enough with the real table, we're only one point off 4th! Europe here we come
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:37 - Oct 12 with 1813 viewsVanDusen

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:41 - Oct 12 by Ryorry

But in the real world, we have to play the accepted ‘top 6’ twice - and some of them are currently performing below expectations, like ‘pool (who had 3 regular starters missing due to injuries yesterday).

Therefore the actual table is the *real* “real” table …


Really? Are you bothering to pay £30 + hundreds in train fares to travel to another pointless shafting this Saturday? Cos I'm not I'm boycotting all the games against those six clubs as there's no point playing them anymore - they're global brands not community assets. They don't exist to me.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:54 - Oct 12 with 1705 viewshsg78

What an unbelievably pointless post.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:03 - Oct 12 with 1647 viewsitfc_bucks

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 10:42 - Oct 12 by ITFCson

My £100 on a top half finish at 18/1 is looking a little more realistic


18/1?

Never!

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:15 - Oct 12 with 1570 viewsSE1blue

If you removed all the other men on the planet, I’d probably be dating Jennifer Lawrence.

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:27 - Oct 12 with 1489 viewsE_I_E_I_E_I_O

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:15 - Oct 12 by SE1blue

If you removed all the other men on the planet, I’d probably be dating Jennifer Lawrence.


Good chance she'd just be a lesbian!
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:29 - Oct 12 with 1477 viewsVanDusen

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:54 - Oct 12 by hsg78

What an unbelievably pointless post.


Yes - rather like playing in the premier league for anyone who remembers how competitive English football was before a handful of big clubs strongarmed the breakaway in '92 and are now complaining that Man City's doing to them exactly what was done to the other 80-odd clubs (including us) back then...
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 13:16 - Oct 12 with 1288 viewsLandOfMickyStockwell

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:37 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

Really? Are you bothering to pay £30 + hundreds in train fares to travel to another pointless shafting this Saturday? Cos I'm not I'm boycotting all the games against those six clubs as there's no point playing them anymore - they're global brands not community assets. They don't exist to me.


It was worth the trip two years ago for Szmods to score on 4 minutes.

It's always worth seeing the Ipswich, though your priorities appear to be who the opposition is
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 13:53 - Oct 12 with 1142 viewsITFCson

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:03 - Oct 12 by itfc_bucks

18/1?

Never!


Probably could have got better. They are still around 10/1 even after the start we have had.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:16 - Oct 12 with 1068 viewsGuthrum

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 12:29 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

Yes - rather like playing in the premier league for anyone who remembers how competitive English football was before a handful of big clubs strongarmed the breakaway in '92 and are now complaining that Man City's doing to them exactly what was done to the other 80-odd clubs (including us) back then...


We were part of that breakaway group in 1992.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:57 - Oct 12 with 943 viewsVanDusen

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 13:16 - Oct 12 by LandOfMickyStockwell

It was worth the trip two years ago for Szmods to score on 4 minutes.

It's always worth seeing the Ipswich, though your priorities appear to be who the opposition is


I've been going home and away for 40 odd years. But I feel somewhat aggrieved that I have to apparently be delighted and excited to see them singularly thrashed every few weeks for the benefit of "fans" in Asia, America and Africa. All whilst the rules make it perfectly ok for 4 or 5 teams to spend what they like to monopolise the Super League places and further entrench their already grossly disproportionate income - whilst even if I had Elon Musk style wealth I'd never be allowed to spend it on us to compete at the same level.

It's patronising, painful and yes, I do resent paying more money to watch such travesties against certain teams now who have nothing in common with our fanbase or our values. What it is NOT anymore is sport - it's simply capitalism designed to sell stuff to people.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:59 - Oct 12 with 935 viewsVanDusen

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:16 - Oct 12 by Guthrum

We were part of that breakaway group in 1992.


We weren't though were we. It wasn't our vote - we just happened to get promoted the season when the sh*t hit the fan, and history is now repeating...
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 16:28 - Oct 12 with 716 viewsITFC_Essex

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:59 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

We weren't though were we. It wasn't our vote - we just happened to get promoted the season when the sh*t hit the fan, and history is now repeating...


We would have voted for it, because English football was on its ar2e, just look at our gates around that time, even in the top flight.

While I hate the Premier League and modern football, we probably did have the best of both worlds between 94-03 in terms of it being commercial enough to be better than it was, but still football and not just "content" as it is now.

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 16:31 - Oct 12 with 707 viewsPinewoodblue

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 14:59 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

We weren't though were we. It wasn't our vote - we just happened to get promoted the season when the sh*t hit the fan, and history is now repeating...


Hard to believe Luton & Notts County had a vote

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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 16:39 - Oct 12 with 683 viewsVanDusen

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 16:31 - Oct 12 by Pinewoodblue

Hard to believe Luton & Notts County had a vote


Precisely. We all know it was a small handful of clubs who wanted to keep TV money for themselves and colluded with the FA to make it happen. Just a decade after they managed to stop having to share their gate receipts.
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 19:02 - Oct 12 with 501 viewsRyorry

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:37 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

Really? Are you bothering to pay £30 + hundreds in train fares to travel to another pointless shafting this Saturday? Cos I'm not I'm boycotting all the games against those six clubs as there's no point playing them anymore - they're global brands not community assets. They don't exist to me.


I would, yes, if I were physically able to - because I support our club, team, players and coaches, loved going to games, watching us play, meeting up with friends, enjoying the atmos (including smelling the hotdogs, onions & ketchup) & saved on other things like holidays to afford it. And live in the real world.

I'd be there like a shot if I could.

Edit - oh, and we might not "get shafted", might even get a point or ...
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Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 22:04 - Oct 12 with 308 viewspatrickswell

Town 2nd in the 'real' table on 11:37 - Oct 12 by VanDusen

Really? Are you bothering to pay £30 + hundreds in train fares to travel to another pointless shafting this Saturday? Cos I'm not I'm boycotting all the games against those six clubs as there's no point playing them anymore - they're global brands not community assets. They don't exist to me.


Would you mind DMing me, so we could discuss an arrangement where I could have your tickets to the matches against the Big 6. Ta.
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