| Ipswich losing out on city of culture 08:44 - Oct 22 with 5362 views | Mullet |
https://www.ipswich.co.uk/ipsw
Given the club are now in the Prem (for however long that might be) how do you locals feel about missing out? It’s a great way to boost the coffers and local economy and seems a bitter blow for the town and Suffolk generally.
Ashton being praised and then blamed here doesn’t reflect well either does it? |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 15:59 - Oct 22 with 918 views | hype313 |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 14:08 - Oct 22 by Stenvict |
Just because you've always felt safe walking through Ipswich at night, it doesn't mean everyone else has as well. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:08]
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I had more issues in Ipswich on a night out in the mid 90's than I have in the past 10 years, but granted, I'm a burly bloke so wouldn't feel as intimidated as females would.
However, I would caveat that by saying how dangerous is Ipswich at night, because we rarely hear of any incidents on a regular basis, i'd argue it's pretty safe these days. |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:12 - Oct 22 with 884 views | MattinLondon |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 14:56 - Oct 22 by TownieRob |
Fair question. Maybe it depends a lot on the route. When my wife and daughter have a break between swimming sessions, any road from the pool into the town centre is the route they take. At any time of day there are always people loitering in groups, and when you've got a young girl with you, that's enough to make you feel uneasy, even if nothing actually happens. They won't walk into town later in the day or after dark at all now.
I'd agree the waterfront is fine. [Post edited 22 Oct 15:01]
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Out of interests is Ipswich the only town or city where people loiter in groups?
Edit. That sounded harsher than what it was intended to be. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:14]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:23 - Oct 22 with 859 views | Dubtractor |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 14:04 - Oct 22 by TownieRob |
The waterfront is lovely now, I’ll give it that. But my wife, daughter and I spend a lot of time in Ipswich on non-football weekends for swimming, and they don’t feel safe walking through the town centre anymore. So in my opinion, anyone who says the town hasn’t changed for the worse is either not wanting to see it because it doesn’t fit their politics,or just not being honest. It’s changed dramatically in the last 10 years.
I didn’t know the actual numbers, so I had a look. Police data shows 389 crimes recorded around Ipswich town centre in June alone, with violence and sexual offences the biggest category at 142, that wasn’t an outlier month either, it averages around 374 a month. So people’s concerns are warranted, and the numbers back it up. It’s not people imagining things or getting worked up over stuff they’ve seen online. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:12]
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Just to build on Stokie's point, and not looking to argue for the sake of it, but what were the crime stats 10/15/20 years ago?
Any crime is too much, but is it worse now than it was before? |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:32 - Oct 22 with 839 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 15:13 - Oct 22 by sibrespace |
You do seem to have selective eyesight….
Fundamentally, you seem to have not noticed the water, ie the old Wet Dock and the several hundred leisure craft moored there including the old Thames barge Victor. It seems like you’ve also not seen the Sherwood Dance House, home to Dance East and its cafe, and the Marinero Lounge opposite it. Well done for spotting the newsagents (I assume you mean Londis?). However there are not “two or three places to eat” - there are at least 10 places to eat (not even counting Cardinal Park which has 7, or nearby St Peter’s Street which has more than 15). There’s also Isaac’s which has numerous bars, and there are at least 2 wine bars. There’s also the Lord Nelson and the Thomas Wolsey very nearby. In terms of hotels, there’s the Salthouse, the Novotel, a Premier Inn and a Travelodge. And there’s a University and the Hold archives, which has exhibitions and another cafe.
There are also 4 medieval churches around the wet dock - two are arts/ music centres.
Was it really such a serious question after all?
No doubt that it could be and will be better (Clay 1 being built and the western gateway hopefully to be sorted soon). |
I’ve no idea what the Dance House is, so no, I’ve not seen it.
Issac’s I’ve seen, that I do know. Ive been in once or twice. The cafes I would not spot, they are not my thing.
The mention of the places further afield from the waters edge is a stretch and that is where I was basing my opinion on. If I have my back immediately to the water, the last time I was there I saw nothing that would entice me back. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:34]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:32 - Oct 22 with 841 views | Mullet |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 15:34 - Oct 22 by _CliveBaker_ |
Yeah but you're a hard b*****d.
I think that's a valid point about frame of reference. As much as I think Ipswich has a lot of untapped potential and could be a lot more desirable for visitors and investment if it was managed a bit better, I can't say I've ever felt unsafe tbh. I guess as a 38 year old male I'm maybe less susceptible to such risks, and I've spent most of my adult life living in much larger and statistically more dangerous cities, so I suppose its all relative. |
In a fat ugly b@stard now, but I don’t have the skinhead and I do have the wonky face so maybe it all shakes out?
I’ve been held up at knifepoint in Manchester as a student who took one wrong turn and the scallops seized on it trapping me in a dark dead end. Just gave them everything and went to the police. That’s once in 20 odd years.
Most of my scrapes have been me doing something stupid or drinking too much but obviously if my dad is reading this, then nothing has ever happened to me.
I think Ipswich is crying out for a city of culture type investment and focus. I see people taking about immigrants and county lines a lot online, but it doesn’t marry up with my snapshots of visiting. I always defend it as a place as I’ve been to many parts of the UK and it’s not where near the worst or roughest. It does seem to have a subset/ generation of locals that love to run it down but I think that’s true everywhere.
To me places like Ipswich have lots of great kids and families and untapped potential. Austerity has robbed them of arts, youth clubs and spaces and it’ll have a lasting effect. People like Farage only want to make that worse and divide us more, which is what the piece and the reality around the bid seems to reflect. Likewise, the town could and should have done more sooner if it was serious maybe? | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:36 - Oct 22 with 831 views | Dubtractor |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:32 - Oct 22 by Mullet |
In a fat ugly b@stard now, but I don’t have the skinhead and I do have the wonky face so maybe it all shakes out?
I’ve been held up at knifepoint in Manchester as a student who took one wrong turn and the scallops seized on it trapping me in a dark dead end. Just gave them everything and went to the police. That’s once in 20 odd years.
Most of my scrapes have been me doing something stupid or drinking too much but obviously if my dad is reading this, then nothing has ever happened to me.
I think Ipswich is crying out for a city of culture type investment and focus. I see people taking about immigrants and county lines a lot online, but it doesn’t marry up with my snapshots of visiting. I always defend it as a place as I’ve been to many parts of the UK and it’s not where near the worst or roughest. It does seem to have a subset/ generation of locals that love to run it down but I think that’s true everywhere.
To me places like Ipswich have lots of great kids and families and untapped potential. Austerity has robbed them of arts, youth clubs and spaces and it’ll have a lasting effect. People like Farage only want to make that worse and divide us more, which is what the piece and the reality around the bid seems to reflect. Likewise, the town could and should have done more sooner if it was serious maybe? |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:57 - Oct 22 with 786 views | Mullet |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:36 - Oct 22 by Dubtractor |
Bloody scallops. |
Well they did force me to shell out a tenner and a crap phone from memory | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 17:17 - Oct 22 with 760 views | TownieRob |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 15:19 - Oct 22 by StokieBlue |
Using absolute numbers rather than percentages, comparisons or trends doesn't really show anything.
Suffolk Police own numbers do show percentage based trends and show an improvement in 2025 over other years:
https://www.suffolk.police.uk/
If you can provide numbers showing a trend then you could create a stronger argument and you may well be right that things are getting worse, I just don't think a single point illustrates that.
Either way the numbers are of course higher than anyone would like but is that a specific Ipswich issue? I think that's probably a countrywide issue with many contributing factors.
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Fair enough, one month doesn’t make a trend, and I wasn’t trying to claim one. I just quickly took a look at the numbers to see if they gave some context to how the town centre feels, and I think they do.
Countrywide, yeah, most likely. I was in Sheffield for the other weekend and couldn’t believe the amount of loitering there, so was surpised to see that longlisted too, but Ipswich was the topic here, and it is sad that my wife and daughter won’t walk into town after dark anymore. That’s all I’m saying. | | | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 17:22 - Oct 22 with 747 views | TownieRob |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 16:12 - Oct 22 by MattinLondon |
Out of interests is Ipswich the only town or city where people loiter in groups?
Edit. That sounded harsher than what it was intended to be. [Post edited 22 Oct 16:14]
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Absolutely not, however we are specifically talking about Ipwich. A place I can confidently say from my own personal lived experiences, has changed over the years. | | | |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 17:44 - Oct 22 with 708 views | MattinLondon |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 17:22 - Oct 22 by TownieRob |
Absolutely not, however we are specifically talking about Ipwich. A place I can confidently say from my own personal lived experiences, has changed over the years. |
I left Ipswich twenty or so years ago and go back on a semi-regular basis to visit family etc as well as for the football. Have to admit that the town centre has deteriorated but so has many places - I can only judge how safe it is by my own experiences. But I’ve never felt unsafe or threatened. Bit as I said, everyone has different experiences.
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 18:04 - Oct 22 with 676 views | urbanpenguin |
As someone who lives in this world and writes about culture, and has visited various UK and European Cities of Culture for writing reasons, I wouldn't be too upset.
I'm very opposed to these City and Town of Culture competitions. They very, very rarely lead to any culture of note and instead kind of find a safe mulch that ticks political boxes rather than anything progressive or meaningfully cultural.
The arts and humanities are struggling in this country because of governmental strategies. This is crazy for an industry that brings in over £12bn a year. Like most industries, but more than most, that money does not trickle down to actual practitioners, makers, or communities.
I see the Culture competitions as a barrier to meaningful local culture and investment in culture. It's impossible to judge Eg Sheffield against Ipswich, they are both incredibly different places and both would benefit from cultural investment. To turn it into a neoliberal competition makes a joke of culture, locality, and how politics should give oversight to such things.
It is the case that most places that lose these competitions go on to claim that they all benefit anyway through bringing people together, self recognition, and idea development. I'm sure Ipswich will say the same and I hope that the council and other local stakeholders - the club included - now properly support culture rather than see it as an exercise in decoration, publicity, or placemaking competition. [Post edited 22 Oct 19:31]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 18:47 - Oct 22 with 624 views | Perublue |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 18:04 - Oct 22 by urbanpenguin |
As someone who lives in this world and writes about culture, and has visited various UK and European Cities of Culture for writing reasons, I wouldn't be too upset.
I'm very opposed to these City and Town of Culture competitions. They very, very rarely lead to any culture of note and instead kind of find a safe mulch that ticks political boxes rather than anything progressive or meaningfully cultural.
The arts and humanities are struggling in this country because of governmental strategies. This is crazy for an industry that brings in over £12bn a year. Like most industries, but more than most, that money does not trickle down to actual practitioners, makers, or communities.
I see the Culture competitions as a barrier to meaningful local culture and investment in culture. It's impossible to judge Eg Sheffield against Ipswich, they are both incredibly different places and both would benefit from cultural investment. To turn it into a neoliberal competition makes a joke of culture, locality, and how politics should give oversight to such things.
It is the case that most places that lose these competitions go on to claim that they all benefit anyway through bringing people together, self recognition, and idea development. I'm sure Ipswich will say the same and I hope that the council and other local stakeholders - the club included - now properly support culture rather than see it as an exercise in decoration, publicity, or placemaking competition. [Post edited 22 Oct 19:31]
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Your post just reminded of the pride we collectively had in the ‘80’s consecutively winning the “city in bloom” thing I think.
Indeed your post makes a lot of sense and very interesting.
Just on my previous post … it did all seem a bit ambiguous the qualifying attractive attributes each “city” needed to appear on the short or long list
I certainly also remember visiting the Liverpool and stoke national garden festivals.. not sure what good they did but they did bring in tourism… us.
Is it margate or ramsgate with the Tate .. I guess that would have had a similar result but only the locations themselves…. Rather than the larger neighbouring locales. [Post edited 22 Oct 20:03]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 19:07 - Oct 22 with 601 views | Sharkey |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 11:54 - Oct 22 by RetroBlue |
Whilst I completely agree with you things are not just like this in Ipswich and only Ipswich. Many towns have had issues over recent years . But My experience of Ipswich, is that we have been as a town centre in decline over 23-4 decades now , nit juts the last 10 -15 years. There's been some serious underfunding and poorly managed funding to this town for years ... and the really sad thing is its the County Town.
There's been such poor advertising of the town as a place to visit for years. Ipswich is a medieval, (far older than the much acclaimed "Oldest town in Britain", Colchester), and rich in history. Not that you'd ever know it, and historic areas have been left to decline. eg, The Wolsey Gate is practically falling down. Its a criminal neglect in my book Im afraid. |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 19:12 - Oct 22 with 588 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 08:55 - Oct 22 by RetroBlue |
For me, there's long been a problem with the local council's ability to put together a decent business plan to request any funding . We had a consultant ( very experienced national Urban regeneration or suck like ) join the council a few years ago to help guide the town centre re development. They left after 12 weeks stating their skills were not being fully utilised and therefore couldn't work with the council due to the petty infighting.
I hate to say it , but historically, the city of norwich has a far better ability to secure funding , I suspect on the back of much better / savvy business acumen.
Ipswich council couldn't organise the proverbial pee up in a brewery ... |
As a former project manager, I’d not want to take that on at 7 weeks notice. These things take months or even years to warm up. And you can’t fake it. You can polish a turd so far, but if you haven’t got all the key partners lined up with strong commitments and a clear plan to deliver built on work already undertaken, you’ll never convince a panel you can suddenly deliver outputs.
One week to the deadline scrambling around asking for commitments from businesses lol. It sounds like the panel saw it for what it was: a rushed bid with limited Council track record/existing funding in this area, few long-term productive partnerships and a bit of a lack of vision.
To be criticised for lack of impact beyond Ipswich and clarity around youth engagement at EOI stage and not then nail those points is not good. Ipswich hasn’t got any regional competition; they should have been able to show how they’d reach and provide opps for ‘da yoof’ throughout the the whole of Suffolk, north Essex and south Norfolk and build on raising profile nationally and internationally.
Ashton? Maybe he didn’t help, hard to know. That website clearly isn’t impressed with him (I don’t know who they are but if they’re serious local journos they shouldn’t have been excluded). |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 19:36 - Oct 22 with 567 views | urbanpenguin |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 18:47 - Oct 22 by Perublue |
Your post just reminded of the pride we collectively had in the ‘80’s consecutively winning the “city in bloom” thing I think.
Indeed your post makes a lot of sense and very interesting.
Just on my previous post … it did all seem a bit ambiguous the qualifying attractive attributes each “city” needed to appear on the short or long list
I certainly also remember visiting the Liverpool and stoke national garden festivals.. not sure what good they did but they did bring in tourism… us.
Is it margate or ramsgate with the Tate .. I guess that would have had a similar result but only the locations themselves…. Rather than the larger neighbouring locales. [Post edited 22 Oct 20:03]
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Yes, it all started about that time, with the Tories at the early days of our neoliberal free-market surrender.
The garden festivals are an incredible case study, which eg Birkenhead that stayed desolate and locked off for years as "managed decline" sought to destroy the city. It's a subject I've thought about researching more deeply for a book, there are some good academic writings about them but not a huge amount for something I think speaks to a lot of today's understanding of local, culture, landscape, identify through an economic lens. [Post edited 22 Oct 20:38]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 20:10 - Oct 22 with 524 views | Perublue |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 19:36 - Oct 22 by urbanpenguin |
Yes, it all started about that time, with the Tories at the early days of our neoliberal free-market surrender.
The garden festivals are an incredible case study, which eg Birkenhead that stayed desolate and locked off for years as "managed decline" sought to destroy the city. It's a subject I've thought about researching more deeply for a book, there are some good academic writings about them but not a huge amount for something I think speaks to a lot of today's understanding of local, culture, landscape, identify through an economic lens. [Post edited 22 Oct 20:38]
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Not so much Liverpool as I think we were in the area anyway rather than specifically visiting the event so my knowledge was limited.. I was young too… but with Stoke on Trent, my dad was a local boy and we knew that particular area they used was extreme brownfield and for decades…but memory fails me but I just have a feeling afterwards it just was kind of forgotten about again and dismantled.. I’m not sure…. If there was any kind or attempt at least of trying to do a legacy thing like the Olympics. | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 20:42 - Oct 22 with 485 views | urbanpenguin |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 20:10 - Oct 22 by Perublue |
Not so much Liverpool as I think we were in the area anyway rather than specifically visiting the event so my knowledge was limited.. I was young too… but with Stoke on Trent, my dad was a local boy and we knew that particular area they used was extreme brownfield and for decades…but memory fails me but I just have a feeling afterwards it just was kind of forgotten about again and dismantled.. I’m not sure…. If there was any kind or attempt at least of trying to do a legacy thing like the Olympics. |
That's it. They were all brownfield, but just the magic of an "event" was not enough, like the Festival of Britain before. Except it wasn't because events only work if you have huge developer led projects to follow.
The 2012 Olympics, which many see as a success here, is like that. Also the Manchester games. Both needed pretty awful people to come in and make it a "success" - Abu Dhabi in the north, offshore developers and Westfield in London.
Both ignored the existent communities and culture that were already on the sites because they didn't look World City enough and didn't sweat enough rent for important private partners. [Post edited 22 Oct 20:44]
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 21:34 - Oct 22 with 423 views | football |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 11:08 - Oct 22 by WolfieAtTheBack |
If i am in Ipswich outside of match day and staying near the train station and have had a few I always get a cab back on a night time.
People I know who have lived in Ipswich all their life no longer feel 100% wandering about in Ipswich night or day.
There is an atmosphere which I can't quite put my finger on but it feels edgy.
Match days have a much more positive feel with 25k+ around the town spending their hard earned and enjoying themselves.
It's weird as within a 15 min drive you are in Woodbridge and that area which seems like a different world again. |
Dont feel that way at all. Have no issue walking around Ipswich night or day | | | |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 21:39 - Oct 22 with 419 views | football |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 14:08 - Oct 22 by Stenvict |
Just because you've always felt safe walking through Ipswich at night, it doesn't mean everyone else has as well. [Post edited 22 Oct 14:08]
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Statistically it has extremely low crime levels and is very safe so why do they feel unsafe | | | |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 22:10 - Oct 22 with 391 views | RetroBlue |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 12:24 - Oct 22 by _CliveBaker_ |
I agree with you Retro. The town isn't immune from the challenges a lot of towns face in the UK and beyond, but I do think its been mismanaged. Proximity to countryside, beaches, London, as well as the history you allude to, and the sizable population. The modern waterfront area, some really nice green spaces by any standards like Christchurch Park. Ipswich actually has all of this to its advantage, plenty of places don't.
If you draw a rectangle from the Northern side of Christchurch Park down to the waterfront, its only about 1 mile as the crow flies, and <0.5 miles across. And half of that is the park. Excluding Christchurch Park you're talking about a square in the region of 0.25 sq. miles from the southern side of the park, down to the waterfront. That needs to be the focus of really strategic town planning and investment. Can't help but think if you draw a box around it and get that bit right, and the rest will come.
The future of towns like Ipswich isn't retail, its experiential. Bury has a real cafe culture and its thriving. You hear so many accents on a Saturday from Essex, London, even notherners even who are visiting for day trips and weekends. Its probably never been as reliant on retail as Ipswich, but Ipswich needs to double down on giving people stuff to see and do, not just stuff to buy. It won't ever be a Bath or Cambridge or even Norwich, but when you visit places like that with a buzz, thriving cafes and pubs, tours, activity on the water etc it doesn't half make a big difference. |
I totally agree with your comments.
I will say a major issue Ipswich has is attracting people to come to the town in the first place and stay long enough to look round it because of the ridiculous cost of parking we have here, and thus is a direct result of the council in its infinate wisdom selling off primely located land in the town centre to private car park businesses like NCP. Prices are extortionate. By comparison you can.park in BSE all day for £4.
You know if ordinary people like me, you and other posters on here can identify these issues, why the hell cant an elected council.... and attempt to rectify it? |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 09:13 - Oct 23 with 246 views | Mullet |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 18:04 - Oct 22 by urbanpenguin |
As someone who lives in this world and writes about culture, and has visited various UK and European Cities of Culture for writing reasons, I wouldn't be too upset.
I'm very opposed to these City and Town of Culture competitions. They very, very rarely lead to any culture of note and instead kind of find a safe mulch that ticks political boxes rather than anything progressive or meaningfully cultural.
The arts and humanities are struggling in this country because of governmental strategies. This is crazy for an industry that brings in over £12bn a year. Like most industries, but more than most, that money does not trickle down to actual practitioners, makers, or communities.
I see the Culture competitions as a barrier to meaningful local culture and investment in culture. It's impossible to judge Eg Sheffield against Ipswich, they are both incredibly different places and both would benefit from cultural investment. To turn it into a neoliberal competition makes a joke of culture, locality, and how politics should give oversight to such things.
It is the case that most places that lose these competitions go on to claim that they all benefit anyway through bringing people together, self recognition, and idea development. I'm sure Ipswich will say the same and I hope that the council and other local stakeholders - the club included - now properly support culture rather than see it as an exercise in decoration, publicity, or placemaking competition. [Post edited 22 Oct 19:31]
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I totally agree that Sheffield vs Ipswich is a mismatch of thinking, but doesn’t the award mean the focus on Ipswich for a little bit would potentially allow for long term things to take root? Investment and attention is only positive no?
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 09:33 - Oct 23 with 228 views | urbanpenguin |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 09:13 - Oct 23 by Mullet |
I totally agree that Sheffield vs Ipswich is a mismatch of thinking, but doesn’t the award mean the focus on Ipswich for a little bit would potentially allow for long term things to take root? Investment and attention is only positive no?
Interesting you cite Neo liberalism and others cite the Farage connection as a negative too! |
What's the point of that at the expense of another town that lost? I think this idea that everything has to be a competition is pretty disgusting, especially for an industry rooted in collaboration, empathy, community and new models of shared thinking | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 09:40 - Oct 23 with 211 views | Mullet |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 09:33 - Oct 23 by urbanpenguin |
What's the point of that at the expense of another town that lost? I think this idea that everything has to be a competition is pretty disgusting, especially for an industry rooted in collaboration, empathy, community and new models of shared thinking |
But does winning the award stop others progressing? Reminds me of the debates around hosting the World Cup/olympics of various types. | |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 10:29 - Oct 23 with 166 views | Slambo |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 13:05 - Oct 22 by tractorboy1978 |
With respect though, that is simply your opinion as a man. To dismiss other people's feelings and lived experiences (particularly a womens) as being derived by being 'warped by the nonsense online' is rather disrespectful. My fiancee isn't even on social media and barely takes any notice of the news or politics and she feels this way. |
This is all valid but the problem is that the facts show that Ipswich has a pretty low violent crime rate - I believe even lower per capita than Norwich. So although she may feel unsafe, she's actually pretty safe, and in fact safer than in many parts of the country. |  |
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| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 10:56 - Oct 23 with 132 views | TownieRob |
| Ipswich losing out on city of culture on 10:29 - Oct 23 by Slambo |
This is all valid but the problem is that the facts show that Ipswich has a pretty low violent crime rate - I believe even lower per capita than Norwich. So although she may feel unsafe, she's actually pretty safe, and in fact safer than in many parts of the country. |
You are correct that crime figures for Ipswich are lower than Norwich, but Norwich is well above the national average itself, so that’s not really saying much.
I just had a look and Ipswich’s violence and sexual offences rate has been around 20% above the UK average pretty much every month from January last year through to February this year. So, I can definitely see why people feel the way they do. [Post edited 23 Oct 10:58]
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