| Cut Walton some slack 14:02 - Nov 9 with 4700 views | GreenEye |
I think he's made some fine saves this season.
We know he's not great with his feet so a hospital pass instead of playing up the line wasn't smart. |  | | |  |
| Cut Walton some slack on 16:02 - Nov 11 | FrimleyBlue |
| Cut Walton some slack on 14:47 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe |
Maybe not a long way ahead, but I certainly generally feel comfortable with Walton in nest where just didn't at all with Scherpen there almost from his first action in a town shirt he looked a bag of nerves and didn't improve
Yep, you need a bit of luck when recruiting a keeper, or be able to get away with it somewhat - look at Leeds last year, dropped £16m on Lucas Perri and end up with Karl Darlow starting 25 games who started the season as a 35 year old keeper who'd started 50 PL games in his career and half a dozen times for Wales.
I think Walton is capable of putting that sort of season together, but probably needs a rejig on pitch to give him more protection - similar to how we changed after the Charlton game last season with regards to the midfield balance after 1 clean sheet in 10 |
Ignoring our personal thoughts on the keeper situation, I do have have to ask why people expect a keeper to start off their careers with a new club without any settling period
Historically, Davis, Tuenzebe, Hutchinson, Diop latterly, all had poor starts. in time in their respected seasons they became great players.
You're also choosing to ignore the makeshift backline Scherpen was playing behind, why is this not thought about when people talk about how Scherpen did. You can't simply ignore the fact that one keepers stats overall are better than the others but say he had a poor start though therefore he deserves not to play again this season unless walton gets injured. |  |
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| Cut Walton some slack on 16:09 - Nov 11 | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cut Walton some slack on 16:02 - Nov 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Ignoring our personal thoughts on the keeper situation, I do have have to ask why people expect a keeper to start off their careers with a new club without any settling period
Historically, Davis, Tuenzebe, Hutchinson, Diop latterly, all had poor starts. in time in their respected seasons they became great players.
You're also choosing to ignore the makeshift backline Scherpen was playing behind, why is this not thought about when people talk about how Scherpen did. You can't simply ignore the fact that one keepers stats overall are better than the others but say he had a poor start though therefore he deserves not to play again this season unless walton gets injured. |
I think the Scherpen situation is a different conversation to whether Walton is good enough.
My main thing for me is, I think we desperately need to address in January. Hopefully we can pick up a few wins before. From what I have seen going with the current two will very likely lead to relegation over the next 28 games.
Regarding Scherpen, I think he should have been giving at least the Everton game and worked with over the extended international break to then make the call. What's done is done though. |  |
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| Cut Walton some slack on 16:18 - Nov 11 | FrimleyBlue |
| Cut Walton some slack on 16:09 - Nov 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I think the Scherpen situation is a different conversation to whether Walton is good enough.
My main thing for me is, I think we desperately need to address in January. Hopefully we can pick up a few wins before. From what I have seen going with the current two will very likely lead to relegation over the next 28 games.
Regarding Scherpen, I think he should have been giving at least the Everton game and worked with over the extended international break to then make the call. What's done is done though. |
Yeah I actually think scherpens done with the club now. The longer he's out the harder the return would be tbh, look at muric in pre season and the reaction. The longer Scherpen is out the worse he's being seen, can' see that being rectified as much as i'd like it to. Just such a similar situation to muric.
Jan, who knows who we can get. | |
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| Cut Walton some slack on 20:28 - Nov 11 | itfcjoe |
| Cut Walton some slack on 16:00 - Nov 11 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You're still giving Walton too much credit IMO. He literally has had mistakes in last two games that arguably cost us points. Man City he was hardly flawless either.
I am not necessarily saying we should but him back in, but a long way ahead? Not for me, Walton has been poor in multiple games. He has been at this club years and was never established a true number one throughout his tenure season on season, even in the Championship. That should tell us a fair bit. [Post edited 11 Nov 16:01]
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Just listened to one of my Blue Monday colleagues on Top Tier do the Beyond the Scoreline analysis show - had some perceptive stuff to say about it all.
A couple of bits leapt out
Guys responsible for most errors leading to goals, and leading to chances, have been Ouattara and Florentino (i.e. the 2 guys who have come in as season progressed)
Ouattara, we all agree has been very good, but he's defended very aggressively, and at times he has jumped when Davis is already up the pitch that has opened us right up.
We've been going longer a lot more, whilst also having 2 wide wingers, so no one close enough to Emersonn to make it stick with.
Before the changes, we were conceding chances from better areas, i.e. outside the box, but since that change and with Walton in the chances have been more in the box - Walton has faced double the xG Scherpen has this season and has broadly done ok |  |
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| Cut Walton some slack on 21:02 - Nov 11 | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Cut Walton some slack on 20:28 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe |
Just listened to one of my Blue Monday colleagues on Top Tier do the Beyond the Scoreline analysis show - had some perceptive stuff to say about it all.
A couple of bits leapt out
Guys responsible for most errors leading to goals, and leading to chances, have been Ouattara and Florentino (i.e. the 2 guys who have come in as season progressed)
Ouattara, we all agree has been very good, but he's defended very aggressively, and at times he has jumped when Davis is already up the pitch that has opened us right up.
We've been going longer a lot more, whilst also having 2 wide wingers, so no one close enough to Emersonn to make it stick with.
Before the changes, we were conceding chances from better areas, i.e. outside the box, but since that change and with Walton in the chances have been more in the box - Walton has faced double the xG Scherpen has this season and has broadly done ok |
I'll have a listen on my train home mate.
I think playing both Ouattara and playing Davis in a 4 certainly has it's risks but that to me is more of a sperate conversation from what I am seeing in the GK position. | |
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| Cut Walton some slack on 07:23 - Nov 12 | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Cut Walton some slack on 20:28 - Nov 11 by itfcjoe |
Just listened to one of my Blue Monday colleagues on Top Tier do the Beyond the Scoreline analysis show - had some perceptive stuff to say about it all.
A couple of bits leapt out
Guys responsible for most errors leading to goals, and leading to chances, have been Ouattara and Florentino (i.e. the 2 guys who have come in as season progressed)
Ouattara, we all agree has been very good, but he's defended very aggressively, and at times he has jumped when Davis is already up the pitch that has opened us right up.
We've been going longer a lot more, whilst also having 2 wide wingers, so no one close enough to Emersonn to make it stick with.
Before the changes, we were conceding chances from better areas, i.e. outside the box, but since that change and with Walton in the chances have been more in the box - Walton has faced double the xG Scherpen has this season and has broadly done ok |
Walton has faced double the xG but in more games. xG per game Walton 2.1, Scherpen 1.7.
Looking at xGOT Scherpen has faced a higher quality of shot, Walton 1.4, Scherpen 1.9 |  |
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