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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? 16:15 - Apr 11 with 3205 viewsVic

The replays I’ve seen clearly show that Taylor toe ended the ball away from the defender, who then missed the ball and connected with Taylor instead. Pen all day for me.

Didn’t we have one against us recently that was very much the same?

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:17 - Apr 11 with 2413 viewsBlueBadger

Having looked at the highlights....a very harsh one at absolute best. But an iffy penalty leading to our first win in ages at the spiritual home of Robert Fleck and Grant Holt feels like a pretty sweet thing.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:18 - Apr 11 with 2380 viewsHerbivore

Very soft for me but I'll take it all day long. Taylor is already going over before there's contact. It's one that if the ref gives it there's no way VAR overrules but it also wouldn't intervene if it's not given.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:18 - Apr 11 with 2363 viewsFrimleyBlue

Dont think so. I get he may have possibly had a slight brushing to the chest but that didnt make his legs give way. It was a lovely well timed dive imo

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:18 - Apr 11 with 2381 viewsCrock

Clear penalty.
You can’t kick someone and not get penalised for it.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:19 - Apr 11 with 2370 viewsSwansea_Blue

Pen every day of the week for me. If someone nips in and takes the ball off your toe and you catch them it’s always a foul wherever it is on the pitch.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:19 - Apr 11 with 2368 viewspeterleeblue

Its penalty all day - Its a free kick anywhere else on the pitch. Taylor gets a boot into his chest which impedes his next movement. The only issue was the officials delay in giving it. Ref and Lino did a mental VAR and then gave it. Actually really good officiating.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:20 - Apr 11 with 2346 viewsVic

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:18 - Apr 11 by FrimleyBlue

Dont think so. I get he may have possibly had a slight brushing to the chest but that didnt make his legs give way. It was a lovely well timed dive imo


Defender missed the ball and kicked him didn’t he?

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:20 - Apr 11 with 2326 viewsRamRob

Plus the guys hand makes contact with Taylor's neck area, hence his flinch.
He goes down like he does because THAT'S WHAT ALL FOOTBALLERS DO!

I feel like people don't look at everything, to me it's obvious he makes contact with Taylor, and the hand makes him pull his head back that made the guy on commentary say he's gone down like he got kicked in the head.

You can have an opinion whether it's soft, but to me it's a foul that would be given anywhere else on the field

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:21 - Apr 11 with 2299 viewsFrimleyBlue

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:20 - Apr 11 by Vic

Defender missed the ball and kicked him didn’t he?


Didnt look like it. There wasnt anything that shows why Jacks legs went.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:21 - Apr 11 with 2312 viewsVic

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:19 - Apr 11 by peterleeblue

Its penalty all day - Its a free kick anywhere else on the pitch. Taylor gets a boot into his chest which impedes his next movement. The only issue was the officials delay in giving it. Ref and Lino did a mental VAR and then gave it. Actually really good officiating.


Agreed. Refs have a really, really tough job, and I’m amazed at how many of those split second decisions they actually get right.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:22 - Apr 11 with 2304 viewsTripSwitch

Soft but who cares

Last 2 games cancel out the Stoke and Leicester games.

Brum and Norwich will have had games where they get the rub of the green.

We would have beaten them regardless, they barely laid a glove.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:22 - Apr 11 with 2289 viewsChurchman

Marginal, but not for me Vic. That looked a bit similar to the Stoke farce, which wasn’t either.

Win some, lose some.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:22 - Apr 11 with 2278 viewsBenters

I keep watching it 50/50 for me.

Good though hey.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:25 - Apr 11 with 2249 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:20 - Apr 11 by Vic

Defender missed the ball and kicked him didn’t he?


I think the question is about how much contact was made. Taylor nipped in and got the ball and then the collision was after that. I think it is soft but can see why it is given. Chambers and Ambrose pointed out Taylor was going down and then held his ankle where there was definitely no contact.

It is one that I think is not given more often than is but VAR definitely doesn't overturn. Indeed, I think the slow-mo replay makes it look worse and probably VAR gets involved if the ref doesn't give it when there is VAR.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:25 - Apr 11 with 2245 viewsDubtractor

Its soft, but also really untidy from their player which leaves a decision for the ref.

As others have said, I don't think VAR would overturn it though, as not a clear error.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:25 - Apr 11 with 2245 viewsGeoffSentence

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:21 - Apr 11 by FrimleyBlue

Didnt look like it. There wasnt anything that shows why Jacks legs went.


I think he was buckling because there was a knee hurtling towards his face.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:28 - Apr 11 with 2206 viewspositivity

anywhere else on the pitch it's a 100% foul, so definite pen!

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:33 - Apr 11 with 2118 viewsthorpedo

Never a penalty, Nunez should have been sent-off and Birmingham robbed of an equaliser last week - and I'm loving it! After the 'luck' we have had with officials this season isn't it nice to be finally getting some back?

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:35 - Apr 11 with 2091 viewsRamRob

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:33 - Apr 11 by thorpedo

Never a penalty, Nunez should have been sent-off and Birmingham robbed of an equaliser last week - and I'm loving it! After the 'luck' we have had with officials this season isn't it nice to be finally getting some back?


Even Huckerby said it was 100% a penalty


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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:37 - Apr 11 with 2057 viewsBloomBlue

It was a soft pen, but a pen is a pen, you don't get different levels of pen, so the answer is yes it was a pen.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:43 - Apr 11 with 1982 viewsthorpedo

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:35 - Apr 11 by RamRob

Even Huckerby said it was 100% a penalty



Darren Ambrose and Luke Chambers both said no pen on the Sky coverage.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:45 - Apr 11 with 1946 viewsvilanovablue

As well as the high leg which probably misses Taylor just after he nicked the ball there was also an arm involved. Probably not a penalty but enough going on a decision needed to be made.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:48 - Apr 11 with 1915 viewsBlue_Heath

One of those classic cases of yes if you are the attacking team but no if you are defending.

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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:48 - Apr 11 with 1913 viewsGarv

I'm usually one that admits when we've cheated our way to a decision, and Taylor did make the most of it after he'd gone to ground, but to react when someone is swinging a boot towards your face isn't cheating I don't think.

It's soft, because there's little contact, but it's not as clear a 'non penalty' as the Sky pundits were making out.

Taylor clearly pokes the ball so is arguably then in possession of the ball, and the guy wildly swings his leg towards him, even if not making much contact he's stopped Taylor getting to the ball.
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The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 20:32 - Apr 13 with 1600 viewsRyorry

The pen - was it or wasn’t it? on 16:21 - Apr 11 by FrimleyBlue

Didnt look like it. There wasnt anything that shows why Jacks legs went.


The Sky slo-mo replay which they showed several times looks like their player’s knee caught JT on the follow-through square on the point of his chin, which snapped his head back whiplash style. Dangerous high boot, clear foul, so penalty was correct decision.

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