| Latest article from Bobby's vision 09:00 - Aug 11 with 2913 views | bobbys_vision |
Town have had success on the pitch and there are promising signs for the first post-McKenna season.
But questions still hang over Mark Ashton, and the club's governance structure remains the same. Alex unpicks what this all means...
Any constructive comments welcome.
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 09:51 - Aug 11 with 2186 views | Meadowlark |
A succinct summary, but no revelations or answers.
The question is was Ashton scheming or naive? |  | | |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 19:42 - Aug 11 with 1849 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
That's a really good and balanced read. The evidence of Ashton's treatment of Blue Action though would suggest that he's not one for listening. |  |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 20:52 - Aug 11 with 1787 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Questions over the clubs governance is a bit 'pot, kettle, black' given that you've still failed to be transparent over your own governance as a self-called fan group.
You've still not answered the eight questions I asked you in April when you launched. You've had ample opportunity.
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Just incase I've added them below again. There's nothing inflammatory there, but I think reasonable questions.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/6 [Post edited 11 Aug 21:01]
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 with 1742 views | bobbys_vision |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 20:52 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Questions over the clubs governance is a bit 'pot, kettle, black' given that you've still failed to be transparent over your own governance as a self-called fan group.
You've still not answered the eight questions I asked you in April when you launched. You've had ample opportunity.
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Just incase I've added them below again. There's nothing inflammatory there, but I think reasonable questions.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/6 [Post edited 11 Aug 21:01]
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For info:
We addressed the question of "Who we are" within our group and added the following to our website. We also posted it on here on a thread.
We will not be adding to that for now.
https://www.bobbysvision.co.uk
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"Who are Bobby’s Vision?
We started as a group of 16 like minded fans that came together to form an independent supporters’ group, motivated by how the club managed and responded to the Nigel Farage visit earlier in 2026.
We’re Ipswich supporters who range in age from 27 to pension age working in industries like construction, personal finance, horticulture and IT.
Many of us are season ticket holders, all avid fans and our oldest member first watched Ipswich in 67/68 season, a year before Bobby Robson became our manager.
Whilst we recognise a natural curiosity to know exactly “who we are”, we do not intend to publicly declare membership due to the ongoing abuse/threats on social media that some members have received.
We intend to “speak truth to power”, and for now will do so without seeking publicity for our members."
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 with 1739 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 19:42 - Aug 11 by BanksterDebtSlave |
That's a really good and balanced read. The evidence of Ashton's treatment of Blue Action though would suggest that he's not one for listening. |
Balanced. Really? In journalistic terms it would be considered an opinion piece, and with clear bias (which is ok for opinion piece). It is neither neutral, nor does it offer opposing views. | | | |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:04 - Aug 11 with 1728 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 by bobbys_vision |
For info:
We addressed the question of "Who we are" within our group and added the following to our website. We also posted it on here on a thread.
We will not be adding to that for now.
https://www.bobbysvision.co.uk
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"Who are Bobby’s Vision?
We started as a group of 16 like minded fans that came together to form an independent supporters’ group, motivated by how the club managed and responded to the Nigel Farage visit earlier in 2026.
We’re Ipswich supporters who range in age from 27 to pension age working in industries like construction, personal finance, horticulture and IT.
Many of us are season ticket holders, all avid fans and our oldest member first watched Ipswich in 67/68 season, a year before Bobby Robson became our manager.
Whilst we recognise a natural curiosity to know exactly “who we are”, we do not intend to publicly declare membership due to the ongoing abuse/threats on social media that some members have received.
We intend to “speak truth to power”, and for now will do so without seeking publicity for our members."
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Yeah. Thanks for updating me with something I've already read.
"We will not be adding to that for now."
You don't speak for me. Because you won't speak to me. Your lack of transparency makes you no better than Ashton in my book. [Post edited 11 Aug 21:08]
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:08 - Aug 11 with 1691 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 by bobbys_vision |
For info:
We addressed the question of "Who we are" within our group and added the following to our website. We also posted it on here on a thread.
We will not be adding to that for now.
https://www.bobbysvision.co.uk
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"Who are Bobby’s Vision?
We started as a group of 16 like minded fans that came together to form an independent supporters’ group, motivated by how the club managed and responded to the Nigel Farage visit earlier in 2026.
We’re Ipswich supporters who range in age from 27 to pension age working in industries like construction, personal finance, horticulture and IT.
Many of us are season ticket holders, all avid fans and our oldest member first watched Ipswich in 67/68 season, a year before Bobby Robson became our manager.
Whilst we recognise a natural curiosity to know exactly “who we are”, we do not intend to publicly declare membership due to the ongoing abuse/threats on social media that some members have received.
We intend to “speak truth to power”, and for now will do so without seeking publicity for our members."
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You haven’t addressed any of the very reasonable questions posed by Cheltenham_Blue. |  |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:20 - Aug 11 with 1635 views | unbelievablue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:04 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yeah. Thanks for updating me with something I've already read.
"We will not be adding to that for now."
You don't speak for me. Because you won't speak to me. Your lack of transparency makes you no better than Ashton in my book. [Post edited 11 Aug 21:08]
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I'm a part of the fan group, if you fancy a chat about it? |  |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:20 - Aug 11 with 1624 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Balanced. Really? In journalistic terms it would be considered an opinion piece, and with clear bias (which is ok for opinion piece). It is neither neutral, nor does it offer opposing views. |
Compared to how I feel about Ashton that seems quite measured to me! | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:26 - Aug 11 with 1587 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:08 - Aug 11 by GlasgowBlue |
You haven’t addressed any of the very reasonable questions posed by Cheltenham_Blue. |
They actually have!
Any thoughts on the actual content of the piece? [Post edited 11 Aug 21:28]
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| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:28 - Aug 11 with 1585 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:20 - Aug 11 by unbelievablue |
I'm a part of the fan group, if you fancy a chat about it? |
You could start by replying to my questions, they aren't difficult and as you claim to represent the supporters, you should be able to answer them publicly in the thread rather than via 'a chat'.
I have other questions from your 'Values and Principles' whilst we are at it.
"2. Where ITFC become involved with a person or body that can be seen to threaten tolerance and diversity, or to encourage discrimination on any of the bases mentioned above, we will take a position on this and make the club aware that it is unacceptable."
Have you made the club aware as a group (rather than as an individual) and what was their response?
"4. Affordability for the fan in terms of the match-going experience and other expenses involved in being an ITFC fan are a core issue for the group, and we will seek to make it known to the club where we believe fairness for ITFC fans has been compromised in relation to financial matters."
Have you been in contact with the club about these matters, and what was their response to the issues raised.
Finally do you have 'the ear of the club' are you in regular contact with the club hierarchy? If so, why do you not report these communications on your website. If not, how can you ask the supporters to accept your representation? | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:28 - Aug 11 with 1584 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:20 - Aug 11 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Compared to how I feel about Ashton that seems quite measured to me! |
That’s like saying Reform is centrist compared to Restore. | | | |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:29 - Aug 11 with 1576 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:26 - Aug 11 by BanksterDebtSlave |
They actually have!
Any thoughts on the actual content of the piece? [Post edited 11 Aug 21:28]
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They haven't at all. | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:44 - Aug 11 with 1489 views | unbelievablue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:28 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
You could start by replying to my questions, they aren't difficult and as you claim to represent the supporters, you should be able to answer them publicly in the thread rather than via 'a chat'.
I have other questions from your 'Values and Principles' whilst we are at it.
"2. Where ITFC become involved with a person or body that can be seen to threaten tolerance and diversity, or to encourage discrimination on any of the bases mentioned above, we will take a position on this and make the club aware that it is unacceptable."
Have you made the club aware as a group (rather than as an individual) and what was their response?
"4. Affordability for the fan in terms of the match-going experience and other expenses involved in being an ITFC fan are a core issue for the group, and we will seek to make it known to the club where we believe fairness for ITFC fans has been compromised in relation to financial matters."
Have you been in contact with the club about these matters, and what was their response to the issues raised.
Finally do you have 'the ear of the club' are you in regular contact with the club hierarchy? If so, why do you not report these communications on your website. If not, how can you ask the supporters to accept your representation? |
I'm not particularly active on here so haven't seen your questions until today when someone raised them as a discussion point. It's also a bit tricky cos, as has been pointed out, it's a group of like minded individuals as opposed to a bloc.
All that said, I will attempt to answer your questions as best as possible publicly tomorrow when I get a chance.
The offer of a chat still stands though. | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:49 - Aug 11 with 1461 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:44 - Aug 11 by unbelievablue |
I'm not particularly active on here so haven't seen your questions until today when someone raised them as a discussion point. It's also a bit tricky cos, as has been pointed out, it's a group of like minded individuals as opposed to a bloc.
All that said, I will attempt to answer your questions as best as possible publicly tomorrow when I get a chance.
The offer of a chat still stands though. |
If you are representing the supporters you need to answer here publicly. Not privately.
I appreciate the offer, but I'll have to decline.
I have to wonder why it has taken a board regular to give any response at all rather than the "Bobbys Vision" user who so far has refused to answer any questions put to them from anybody on any post. | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 22:41 - Aug 11 with 1358 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:29 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
They haven't at all. |
16 is the answer to one of your questions. | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 22:53 - Aug 11 with 1314 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:49 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If you are representing the supporters you need to answer here publicly. Not privately.
I appreciate the offer, but I'll have to decline.
I have to wonder why it has taken a board regular to give any response at all rather than the "Bobbys Vision" user who so far has refused to answer any questions put to them from anybody on any post. |
Surely no supporters group represents all supporters. As a long time supporter I have never noticed any input from the official supporters group so welcome a presence of some sorts on issues they seem to be tongue tied over. Struggling to see your problem tbf. | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 22:54 - Aug 11 with 1309 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Balanced. Really? In journalistic terms it would be considered an opinion piece, and with clear bias (which is ok for opinion piece). It is neither neutral, nor does it offer opposing views. |
Perhaps you might explain the opposing view? | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 23:08 - Aug 11 with 1273 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 22:53 - Aug 11 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Surely no supporters group represents all supporters. As a long time supporter I have never noticed any input from the official supporters group so welcome a presence of some sorts on issues they seem to be tongue tied over. Struggling to see your problem tbf. |
Are any of my questions unreasonable? Please show me which. | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:09 - Aug 12 with 1052 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 23:08 - Aug 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Are any of my questions unreasonable? Please show me which. |
And you haven't addressed the point I have made here. Not sure why it matters to you so much to focus on this rather than discuss the content of the piece? [Post edited 12 Aug 8:32]
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| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:31 - Aug 12 with 993 views | DarkBrandon |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 21:01 - Aug 11 by bobbys_vision |
For info:
We addressed the question of "Who we are" within our group and added the following to our website. We also posted it on here on a thread.
We will not be adding to that for now.
https://www.bobbysvision.co.uk
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"Who are Bobby’s Vision?
We started as a group of 16 like minded fans that came together to form an independent supporters’ group, motivated by how the club managed and responded to the Nigel Farage visit earlier in 2026.
We’re Ipswich supporters who range in age from 27 to pension age working in industries like construction, personal finance, horticulture and IT.
Many of us are season ticket holders, all avid fans and our oldest member first watched Ipswich in 67/68 season, a year before Bobby Robson became our manager.
Whilst we recognise a natural curiosity to know exactly “who we are”, we do not intend to publicly declare membership due to the ongoing abuse/threats on social media that some members have received.
We intend to “speak truth to power”, and for now will do so without seeking publicity for our members."
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You wouldn’t know the 15 other Town fans in the group with me. They go to another school. |  | | |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:48 - Aug 12 with 932 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:09 - Aug 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
And you haven't addressed the point I have made here. Not sure why it matters to you so much to focus on this rather than discuss the content of the piece? [Post edited 12 Aug 8:32]
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Because I was talking to Them. Not you.
I'm not sure why you have an incessant need to get into a ding dong with other posters on this board. I'm quite reasonably asking them to answer questions I asked in April and they refused to answer, nothing for you to worry your pretty little head about. | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:56 - Aug 12 with 899 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:48 - Aug 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Because I was talking to Them. Not you.
I'm not sure why you have an incessant need to get into a ding dong with other posters on this board. I'm quite reasonably asking them to answer questions I asked in April and they refused to answer, nothing for you to worry your pretty little head about. |
You are sooooooo passive aggressive Chelters!!
As I said it's 16 of them and it would appear they have tried to address/placate you. Your thing about representing all supporters is clearly nonsensical. | |
| "They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches." | | Poll: | What you watching. |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 10:25 - Aug 12 with 805 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 08:56 - Aug 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You are sooooooo passive aggressive Chelters!!
As I said it's 16 of them and it would appear they have tried to address/placate you. Your thing about representing all supporters is clearly nonsensical. |
And off you go again.
Have a great day Bankers xx | |
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| Latest article from Bobby's vision on 11:04 - Aug 12 with 769 views | victorysquad |
The point about the governance structure maybe valid, but if you look at Brighton's model (for example) they have:
Chairman: Tony Bloom
Chief Executive and Deputy Chairman: Paul Barber
You could argue OMG are effectively that sounding board, and the ones that will hold Mark Ashton to account. It may need looking at, but I think it is a discussion/debate rather than a foregone conclusion that we need another chairman. It depends on how involved the ownership group are.
Overall, I think it is a bit of a witch hunt tbh, that is fairly devisive (which is ironic), and unhelpful at a point in time we start another season in the Premier League where we know it is going to be tough.
We need to all be pulling together.
Let the ownership group deal with Mark Ashton, they are clearly very competent. | |
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