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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... 10:03 - Jan 31 with 1324 viewsZx1988


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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 10:13 - Jan 31 with 1259 viewsNthQldITFC

This made me cry.

Literally.

Musicians, 'celebrities', other popular non-political people with consciences and living souls can hopefully get through to voters where politicians and journalists often somehow fail on their own, with just dry 'boring' facts.

It's so important that good, influential non-politicians like Springsteen speak up and speak out to all of our consciences, whichever way we think we're going to vote - it's never too late to listen to your conscience and change your vote.

I'm still crying. Literally.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 10:15 - Jan 31 with 1227 viewsnoggin

Powerful stuff. Thanks for posting.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 with 1063 viewsbrazil1982

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 10:13 - Jan 31 by NthQldITFC

This made me cry.

Literally.

Musicians, 'celebrities', other popular non-political people with consciences and living souls can hopefully get through to voters where politicians and journalists often somehow fail on their own, with just dry 'boring' facts.

It's so important that good, influential non-politicians like Springsteen speak up and speak out to all of our consciences, whichever way we think we're going to vote - it's never too late to listen to your conscience and change your vote.

I'm still crying. Literally.


We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:08 - Jan 31 with 1008 viewsNthQldITFC

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?


I don't think Obama was particularly into the old fascism thing, was he?

Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:12 - Jan 31 with 962 viewsnoggin

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?


Tell us you support state sponsored execution of your own citizens, without saying state sponsored execution of your own citizens.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:18 - Jan 31 with 934 viewsmanagement

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?


https://tracreports.org/tracat

Obama deported 3.1 million in his two tenures.

Trump deported over 900k in his first tenure and presently 622k in this period. So still only 50% of Obama's figures. Granted he is catching up at a rate of knots.
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:19 - Jan 31 with 919 viewseirannach_gorm

The Trump ecosystem ignores any challenge to policy's and direction. Trump was too dumb to realise that 'Born in the USA' was a protest song when he chose it for his rallies. They don't seem to be that close


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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:20 - Jan 31 with 912 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:18 - Jan 31 by management

https://tracreports.org/tracat

Obama deported 3.1 million in his two tenures.

Trump deported over 900k in his first tenure and presently 622k in this period. So still only 50% of Obama's figures. Granted he is catching up at a rate of knots.


Guess Trump's tactics seem so ineffective you might wonder why he's really spending $85bn on a paramilitary force that is loyal to him...

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:21 - Jan 31 with 885 viewsGlasgowBlue

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?


Yes. Obama was President in 2014 when the Police killed two unarmed Black men, Eric Garner and Michael Brown in separate incidents. This led to large protests and the national march against police brutality in Washington D.C.the same year.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:41 - Jan 31 with 814 viewsFoghornGleghorn

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 10:13 - Jan 31 by NthQldITFC

This made me cry.

Literally.

Musicians, 'celebrities', other popular non-political people with consciences and living souls can hopefully get through to voters where politicians and journalists often somehow fail on their own, with just dry 'boring' facts.

It's so important that good, influential non-politicians like Springsteen speak up and speak out to all of our consciences, whichever way we think we're going to vote - it's never too late to listen to your conscience and change your vote.

I'm still crying. Literally.


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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 13:04 - Jan 31 with 759 viewsSwansea_Blue

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:19 - Jan 31 by eirannach_gorm

The Trump ecosystem ignores any challenge to policy's and direction. Trump was too dumb to realise that 'Born in the USA' was a protest song when he chose it for his rallies. They don't seem to be that close


https://www.rollingstone.com/m


When they did their budget North Korea military procession through Washington (I think) last year, they were playing CCR’s Fortunate Son. You couldn’t make it up . Self awareness and intelligence seem to be in short supply in that administration.

(For anyone who doesn’t know, copied from Google:
‘John Fogerty wrote "Fortunate Son" in about 20 minutes, driven by his outrage over the Vietnam War, Nixon, and privilege. He cleverly twisted "favorite son" to criticize those who dodged military service.’

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 13:10 - Jan 31 with 747 viewsSwansea_Blue

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:21 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue

Yes. Obama was President in 2014 when the Police killed two unarmed Black men, Eric Garner and Michael Brown in separate incidents. This led to large protests and the national march against police brutality in Washington D.C.the same year.


Very true. Although they were not killings by federal agents, rather local officers (no distinction to the victims of course, but relevant when comparing the two administrations). I’m sure DHS wasn’t a bunch of roses under Obama; border forces are never angels anywhere.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 13:36 - Jan 31 with 668 viewsBlueBadger

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:56 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

We're there protests under other Presidents, ie Obama?


What brand of jackboots taste the best, in your opinion?

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 14:00 - Jan 31 with 612 viewsBlueBadger

I love seeing idiots on the socials saying things like 'WhEn DiD bRuCe GeT aLl PoLiTiCaL aNd WoKe' like stiff like 'Born....', '41 Shots' and 'The Rising' never happened.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 14:10 - Jan 31 with 597 viewsZx1988

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 14:00 - Jan 31 by BlueBadger

I love seeing idiots on the socials saying things like 'WhEn DiD bRuCe GeT aLl PoLiTiCaL aNd WoKe' like stiff like 'Born....', '41 Shots' and 'The Rising' never happened.


Or the whole "You went from 'Born in the USA' to this?! What happened to your patriotism?!" crowd.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 14:20 - Jan 31 with 570 viewsNthQldITFC

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:21 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue

Yes. Obama was President in 2014 when the Police killed two unarmed Black men, Eric Garner and Michael Brown in separate incidents. This led to large protests and the national march against police brutality in Washington D.C.the same year.


That's a fair point to make, but the difference is the context. I would say that the police brutality thing is at a local level if you see what I mean. Widespread - of course, getting worse - probably; a problem of individual criminal officers and a culture that absolutely needs to be cracked down on.

But not a centralised, government-sponsored gang of half trained thugs marching around without visible ID doing whatever the hell they please.

I don't know - I'm not there - the shirts are mostly green, not brown, but from a distance it sure looks like proto-fascism to me.
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Good work by Philogene...... GREAT WORK BY PHILOGENE!!!
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 15:36 - Jan 31 with 486 viewsThe_Major

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 14:00 - Jan 31 by BlueBadger

I love seeing idiots on the socials saying things like 'WhEn DiD bRuCe GeT aLl PoLiTiCaL aNd WoKe' like stiff like 'Born....', '41 Shots' and 'The Rising' never happened.


It's like that in a lot of fandoms of long running franchises. Look at the blubbing there has been over Doctor Who the last few years as a prime example.

"It's all gone woke", they cry, when in reality Jon Pertwee was doing stories about enviromentalism and closer ties with our nearest neighbours in 1973 - not to mention the original Star Trek calling out bigotry and showing the first interracial kiss some years before that...
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 20:32 - Jan 31 with 402 viewsbrazil1982

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 13:36 - Jan 31 by BlueBadger

What brand of jackboots taste the best, in your opinion?


What on earth are you bumbling about now?
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 21:15 - Jan 31 with 338 viewsredrickstuhaart

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 20:32 - Jan 31 by brazil1982

What on earth are you bumbling about now?


He's making an obvious point about your defensiveness over an a authoritarian fascist regime.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 21:15 - Jan 31 with 336 viewsredrickstuhaart

Not a springsteen fan. Lyrics and vocal tone very Dylany there though. And people like that can have an impact if they try.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 09:50 - Feb 1 with 209 viewsDJR

On the World Service this morning it was reported that Native Americans are being targeted and detained by ICE.

The suggestion is that it is due to their skin colour.

One person to whom this happened, when it became clear that he was not an immigrant, was told to go back to where he he came from. When he asked where that was, he was told, the reservation.
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:37 - Feb 1 with 119 viewsbrazil1982

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 21:15 - Jan 31 by redrickstuhaart

He's making an obvious point about your defensiveness over an a authoritarian fascist regime.


A question asked about previous protests, and that means I'm defending "fascism" ? Wow.
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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:39 - Feb 1 with 114 viewsSwansea_Blue

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 09:50 - Feb 1 by DJR

On the World Service this morning it was reported that Native Americans are being targeted and detained by ICE.

The suggestion is that it is due to their skin colour.

One person to whom this happened, when it became clear that he was not an immigrant, was told to go back to where he he came from. When he asked where that was, he was told, the reservation.
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Disgusting, but not surprising. It’s not too dissimilar to the KKK but in different masks.

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Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 11:47 - Feb 1 with 95 viewsiamatractorboy

Springsteen very much on the fence re: Minneapolis... on 12:21 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue

Yes. Obama was President in 2014 when the Police killed two unarmed Black men, Eric Garner and Michael Brown in separate incidents. This led to large protests and the national march against police brutality in Washington D.C.the same year.


Yep, that was shovking. Violence by police/authority figures has seemed like a regular, almost daily occurrence in the good ol US of A for ever (absolutely not condoning it happening under Obama; in fact, the opposite). I'm going to take a wild guess Mr O and his cabinet ( if they're called that over there) didn't immediately brand the victims as domestic terrorists though.
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