| Are today’s managers 15:19 - Jun 13 with 1418 views | backwaywhen |
Getting burnt out with the modern day demands from owners , fans and media ?
So many are now taking breaks from the game , our own McKenna, Pep , Franks and now Rosenior, is the game tainted these days . |  | | |  |
| Are today’s managers on 15:21 - Jun 13 with 1369 views | FrimleyBlue |
No. They just keep getting sacked and have very nice incoming wages until they take another job possibly on lower wages |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:23 - Jun 13 with 1351 views | Churchman |
It’s a possibility. Maybe it’s also that given the large sums of money they are paid they can afford to pick and choose/take a break.
It’s an interesting question. |  | | |
| Are today’s managers on 15:24 - Jun 13 with 1324 views | backwaywhen |
| Are today’s managers on 15:21 - Jun 13 by FrimleyBlue |
No. They just keep getting sacked and have very nice incoming wages until they take another job possibly on lower wages |
Two of the above didn’t get sacked !! | | | |
| Are today’s managers on 15:25 - Jun 13 with 1310 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
No, it's a career move.
Aimed at protecting their reputation.
The break isn't a bad idea though.
Managers have more support and less responsibility than ever before. The head coach doesn't deal with as much as managers used to. |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:26 - Jun 13 with 1302 views | armchaircritic59 |
It may take more out of them than many realise, I don't know, I'm not one of them. However, they are rather more than adequately rewarded for their trials and tribulations. I guess you go into management knowing this. Few people are in jobs that they can just afford to walk away from and not bother. On the flip side, few people have the hopes and wishes of several ( or more ) thousand people on their shoulders every time they go to work. Maybe it's just a coincidence ( not that I believe in them ) or it's starting to become a trend. Guess we'll find out over time. |  | | |
| Are today’s managers on 15:29 - Jun 13 with 1274 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Are today’s managers on 15:24 - Jun 13 by backwaywhen |
Two of the above didn’t get sacked !! |
1 managed a club for 10 years. Thats a very long burnout
KM we dont actually know for sure why he left. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:38 - Jun 13 with 1219 views | billlm |
I wouldn't disagree with that at all stress city,
To go with another poster they earn so much money you then have to question there motivation when the pressure starts,
A lot takes its toll,
Constant travelling just another hotel room,
I can see why these days there's burn out,
Take the 70s they played Saturday's end off everyone knew where they were,
TV greed is taking its toll, |  | | |
| Are today’s managers on 15:39 - Jun 13 with 1215 views | lurcher |
| Are today’s managers on 15:25 - Jun 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
No, it's a career move.
Aimed at protecting their reputation.
The break isn't a bad idea though.
Managers have more support and less responsibility than ever before. The head coach doesn't deal with as much as managers used to. |
I wouldn't agree with that. The job is entirely different today, they are intensely focussed on football morning noon and night. Coaching, analysing, developing their skills and knowledge. In the past managers had a wider array of tasks to oversee but it was a few limited training sessions, a 5 minute team talk here and a chat with your secretary there. |  | | |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:45 - Jun 13 with 1134 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are today’s managers on 15:39 - Jun 13 by lurcher |
I wouldn't agree with that. The job is entirely different today, they are intensely focussed on football morning noon and night. Coaching, analysing, developing their skills and knowledge. In the past managers had a wider array of tasks to oversee but it was a few limited training sessions, a 5 minute team talk here and a chat with your secretary there. |
I don't really buy the burn put, they are lucky to do a job they love. Which in itself makes it less stressful.
Sone may need a rest, but its just a career move, which is ok. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:49 - Jun 13 with 1111 views | Broadbent23 |
Managers today need to delegate more. A manager's responsibility is huge. Team manager, head coach, shrink, councillor, motivator and much more. Keep the hours realistic to cover watching time; therefore 70 hours. Maybe dual managing might work. The assistant takes over during when the pressure is less. That's why Pert seemed to help with cup matches. Football is no longer the working man game. It is the millionaires toy. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:51 - Jun 13 with 1100 views | lurcher |
| Are today’s managers on 15:45 - Jun 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I don't really buy the burn put, they are lucky to do a job they love. Which in itself makes it less stressful.
Sone may need a rest, but its just a career move, which is ok. |
I do think KM looks really burnt out. It always catches up with you however much you love the job. | | | |
| Are today’s managers on 15:51 - Jun 13 with 1098 views | Blue_Heath |
NO, just very fortunate that the obscene wages they get mean they can afford to take breaks or never even work again. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:51 - Jun 13 with 1095 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nah, KM and Resenior have just realised they can make more money from their crystal meth operation.
Def info.
(It does seem a very intense career) |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 15:54 - Jun 13 with 1068 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Are today’s managers on 15:51 - Jun 13 by lurcher |
I do think KM looks really burnt out. It always catches up with you however much you love the job. |
A rest will do him good, but I firmly believe its reputation management. Which is fair enough.
I think he looks like he always regretted not taking the Brighton job. [Post edited 13 Jun 15:54]
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| Are today’s managers on 17:10 - Jun 13 with 887 views | Scuzzer |
| Are today’s managers on 15:51 - Jun 13 by Swansea_Blue |
Nah, KM and Resenior have just realised they can make more money from their crystal meth operation.
Def info.
(It does seem a very intense career) |
Supposed to be funny? |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 17:19 - Jun 13 with 862 views | Scuzzer |
It depends if they are designated as 'manager' or 'head coach'.
Usually managers have more to do with the wider aspects of running the first team. So they are liable to 'burn out' sooner.
There's been a lot said about KM's early starts and late finishes, exactly like Sir Bob when he was in charge...and he had more games to prepare for back then.
I don't blame KM for taking time out. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 17:29 - Jun 13 with 800 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Are today’s managers on 17:10 - Jun 13 by Scuzzer |
Supposed to be funny? |
Obviously not. You’re a tough crowd. | |
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| Are today’s managers on 17:30 - Jun 13 with 786 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
High pressure, high stakes, highly paid. A PL weeks wages going to be over double the average annual income. Anyone can get burnt out in their careers, it’s probably a bit easier when you’re a millionaire tbh! It’s the dream job for most of them. |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 17:34 - Jun 13 with 766 views | mutters |
No it's more aligned to modern thinning and life imo.
Men are more involved in raising a family, being present, and when you're somebody like KmK who has very high EQ, it's important to these types to ensure that they whole life is balanced rather than just focussing on a career. Life is short, the sooner people realise this and adjust accordingly the better for humanity imo.
Having a fulfilling career is very important to ones own well being but it is really not the whole picture these days. The vista is skewed a little when you have very rich and powerful people who demand an 80 hour week, but unless it's your own company and you have a slice of the cake, why would you want to spend all that time making somebody else wealthy? |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 18:15 - Jun 13 with 635 views | backwaywhen |
| Are today’s managers on 17:30 - Jun 13 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
High pressure, high stakes, highly paid. A PL weeks wages going to be over double the average annual income. Anyone can get burnt out in their careers, it’s probably a bit easier when you’re a millionaire tbh! It’s the dream job for most of them. |
All the money in the world cannot buy you health and mental protection. | | | |
| Are today’s managers on 19:20 - Jun 13 with 567 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Are today’s managers on 15:21 - Jun 13 by FrimleyBlue |
No. They just keep getting sacked and have very nice incoming wages until they take another job possibly on lower wages |
Just when I start to think you're not so bad after all , you post a stupid comment like that. Try working 100 hours a week and see how long you last. |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 03:58 - Jun 14 with 280 views | Kropotkin123 |
Time is a resource. The most committed people will put as much of it in as they can. I don't think it is on the owners, fans, or media. I think pushing the amount of time they invest to the max is an attribute of people like McKenna that comes from their own personal drive.
All things being equal, these people people will succeed. That investment of time leads to burn out amongst those people. It is good that they recognise it and take a break. |  |
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| Are today’s managers on 07:44 - Jun 14 with 144 views | bringbacktheglory |
| Are today’s managers on 18:15 - Jun 13 by backwaywhen |
All the money in the world cannot buy you health and mental protection. |
This.
Your body doesn’t know how much you earn. There is only so much strain the human body/mind can take. Some are more resilient than others. I consider myself hard working and I would love to say I’d be a football manager for £5m a year but there’s no way my mind or body would survive 12 hours a day with less than a day a week off and a week or two holiday in the summer alongside the constant public scrutiny (even if he was adored by the majority) and pressure. He will have missed so much family time and money cannot replace that either.
That desire to reach the top is all consuming and may well have proved too much. | | | |
| Are today’s managers on 08:31 - Jun 14 with 60 views | NthQldITFC |
| Are today’s managers on 18:15 - Jun 13 by backwaywhen |
All the money in the world cannot buy you health and mental protection. |
This really tragic fundamental misconception keeps cropping up in these sort of discussions, where a lot of people just don't seem able to get or see or feel or know the difference between financial wealth and happiness.
I suspect it's much harder these days with the fine-tuned nature of marketing and consumer programming, but people just seemed so much happier last century!
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| Are today’s managers on 08:57 - Jun 14 with 9 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Add Klopp to that list as a high profile manager who quit due to burnout. He took a full break for over 6 months, and then took a low profile, out of the limelight, non-managerial position.
Only now, after over 2 years, is he even saying he might return to management. | | | |
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