| Scouting Goalkeepers 17:32 - Nov 8 with 760 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
I was talking to a football scout the other week and discussing goalkeepers (as it's my son's position). The scout said that after physique (if under 6ft then no chance), the first thing they look for is how comfortable they are with ball at feet and dealing with ball played back to them. Then they consider distribution. The last quality they look for is the ability to make saves, they believe it can be coached!
Based on this criteria I found it amazing that we let van Oevelen out on loan! I appreciate he's age but he looks by far the most accomplished with his feet! |  |
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| Scouting Goalkeepers on 18:01 - Nov 8 | bsw72 |
That’s been true for about 10+ years, but to add some colour to the “saves can be coached”.
The technique of shot-stopping can be coached well: set position, footwork, handling, angles and diving shape. What's much harder to teach is reaction speed, explosive agility, bravery coming off the line and the temperament to recover from a mistake, and scouts are watching for those raw traits alongside ability on the ball.
They let Van Oevelen go to gain experience in another first team squad in top league but not panned out as expected for us or him. I would imagine if Palmer leaves in January, Van Oevelen may get recalled, but fans need to be careful around expectations. |  | | |
| Scouting Goalkeepers on 20:07 - Nov 8 | armchaircritic59 |
Well that explains it. I've often wondered why there are so few genuinely high class goalkeepers around compared to some other positions. If that's the order of importance keeper coaches place ability on, at long last the puzzle has been solved. Personally I'd rather place far more importance on actually making saves, than pretending to be, and too often failing to be Johan Cruyff with his feet. |  | | |
| Scouting Goalkeepers on 20:12 - Nov 8 | Swansea_Blue |
| Scouting Goalkeepers on 18:01 - Nov 8 by bsw72 |
That’s been true for about 10+ years, but to add some colour to the “saves can be coached”.
The technique of shot-stopping can be coached well: set position, footwork, handling, angles and diving shape. What's much harder to teach is reaction speed, explosive agility, bravery coming off the line and the temperament to recover from a mistake, and scouts are watching for those raw traits alongside ability on the ball.
They let Van Oevelen go to gain experience in another first team squad in top league but not panned out as expected for us or him. I would imagine if Palmer leaves in January, Van Oevelen may get recalled, but fans need to be careful around expectations. |
Interesting. I think we need to roll the dice again. I’d like to see Scherpen get a run before completely writing him off, but if GON thinks Walt’s is better we definitely need to roll the dice. It shouldn’t be beyond us to find a decent keeper while in the PL despite how hard we make it look. |  |
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| Scouting Goalkeepers on 20:20 - Nov 8 | Nutkins_Return |
Why. As your post says the saving can be coached. He's a young kid and we know he's good with his feet and a good size. It's the saves and the 'keeping' we don't yet know too well. He looks the business. Carl Rushworth is a good example of someone with all the tools who has crumbled a bit in the prem pressure cooker. Let's give him some time and experience. |  |
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