| GON record with Wolves 19:36 - Nov 9 with 1641 views | Mckenna1263 |
The 2024/25 Season: His second season began disastrously, with the team failing to win any of their first ten league matches. While they picked up late wins against Southampton and Fulham, a 2–1 home defeat to Ipswich Town proved to be his final game. At the time of his dismissal, Wolves sat 19th in the table with just 9 points from 16 matches, having conceded a staggering 40 goals.
Is history about to repeat itself? Doesn't look like defence is a major priority. |  | | |  |
| GON record with Wolves on 19:51 - Nov 9 | WestStanderLaLaLa |
Half of those were from set pieces. Just the 3 for us so far so he’s shown he can fix that. |  |
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| GON record with Wolves on 19:53 - Nov 9 | MK1 |
His Xmas list will contain at least 2 defenders. |  |
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| GON record with Wolves on 19:53 - Nov 9 | mistert |
We don't know. That Wolves team was pretty dysfunctional at the time. We still seem a long way from that at the moment. [Post edited 9 Nov 20:31]
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| GON record with Wolves on 22:12 - Nov 9 | DavoIPB |
His stats and almost every metric of measuring a teams performance is woeful for every season he has managed in the premier league. It hasn't improved with his time at town. | | | |
| GON record with Wolves on 22:14 - Nov 9 | FrimleyBlue |
| GON record with Wolves on 19:53 - Nov 9 by mistert |
We don't know. That Wolves team was pretty dysfunctional at the time. We still seem a long way from that at the moment. [Post edited 9 Nov 20:31]
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Didnt they win 12 out of 14 games after he left or was that another club? |  |
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| GON record with Wolves on 22:27 - Nov 9 | _CliveBaker_ |
| GON record with Wolves on 22:14 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Didnt they win 12 out of 14 games after he left or was that another club? |
It was from Feb when they went on a silly run, GON was sacked mid December after we beat them (we robbed them really, they were miles better than us especially 2nd half).
They actually took as many points in the 7 games before he was sacked as the 7 games after, then they went on a mad one under Pereira for 3 months. |  | | |
| GON record with Wolves on 22:33 - Nov 9 | Simonds92 |
Last i checked we had 11 points after 10 games, so no, there's no chance of that being repeated. If we continue with the same ppg for the rest of the season, we'll just about stay up. | | | |
| GON record with Wolves on 00:53 - Nov 10 | armchaircritic59 |
| GON record with Wolves on 22:27 - Nov 9 by _CliveBaker_ |
It was from Feb when they went on a silly run, GON was sacked mid December after we beat them (we robbed them really, they were miles better than us especially 2nd half).
They actually took as many points in the 7 games before he was sacked as the 7 games after, then they went on a mad one under Pereira for 3 months. |
Dysfunctional squad, wasn't long before Pereira got the boot after. I would imagine both were glad to be gone. Two or three players with ego's much bigger than their ability levels, not want you want at any club. |  | | |
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| GON record with Wolves on 10:13 - Nov 10 | bsw72 |
For history to repeat itself, surely we would not have 3 wins under our belt already and conceding at 2 per game with what feels like a good team spirit and supportive board, compared to winning 0 games and conceding at over 3 per game, with a dysfunctional team and erratic board.
Apart from that the similarity is striking  |  | | |
| GON record with Wolves on 10:27 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| GON record with Wolves on 22:12 - Nov 9 by DavoIPB |
His stats and almost every metric of measuring a teams performance is woeful for every season he has managed in the premier league. It hasn't improved with his time at town. |
I can't believe we have got to this stage where people are slating the manager.
It is very feasible that another appointment (or even McKenna) that we'd be firmly in the bottom 3 at this stage. He's getting a weak squad for this league to overperform more often than not, and nick wins and draws we shouldn't have.
Our entitlement needs to be put in check. Yeah we've spent money, but it's been over the odds to get people in, so many of the signings values have been inflated. We still very much have a Championship squad. |  |
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| GON record with Wolves on 12:03 - Nov 10 | Guthrum |
| GON record with Wolves on 10:27 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
I can't believe we have got to this stage where people are slating the manager.
It is very feasible that another appointment (or even McKenna) that we'd be firmly in the bottom 3 at this stage. He's getting a weak squad for this league to overperform more often than not, and nick wins and draws we shouldn't have.
Our entitlement needs to be put in check. Yeah we've spent money, but it's been over the odds to get people in, so many of the signings values have been inflated. We still very much have a Championship squad. |
It's not even that. We do have the makings of a Prem squad. However, we've spent big for one summer only - much of that laid out in 2024-25 has gone back out of the door again*.
Barring Cov, Hull, Leeds and Sunderland (only one of which is substantially above us), our rivals have had between several and very many seasons of recruitment at this level. Time to get their squads fine-tuned for competitiveness. Some have ballsed that up (ManU), but they still had the opportunity, which we haven't, yet.
* Delap, Hutchinson, Ogbene, Muric, Szmodics, Phillips loan fee. |  |
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| GON record with Wolves on 12:29 - Nov 10 | ericclacton |
It's plainly obvious now Ashton got the wrong man he's clueless.
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| GON record with Wolves on 14:27 - Nov 10 | ITFC_Essex |
| GON record with Wolves on 12:03 - Nov 10 by Guthrum |
It's not even that. We do have the makings of a Prem squad. However, we've spent big for one summer only - much of that laid out in 2024-25 has gone back out of the door again*.
Barring Cov, Hull, Leeds and Sunderland (only one of which is substantially above us), our rivals have had between several and very many seasons of recruitment at this level. Time to get their squads fine-tuned for competitiveness. Some have ballsed that up (ManU), but they still had the opportunity, which we haven't, yet.
* Delap, Hutchinson, Ogbene, Muric, Szmodics, Phillips loan fee. |
We don't have a Premier League squad though... Walton, Palmer, Sherpen, Davis, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Fatawu, Taylor, Azor, Nunez, Florentino, Egeli, Jaden, McAteer, Maeda, Mehmeti, Fleming and Akpom are not Premier League level players. Would anyone bar Hull and Coventry take most of these in their squad? Upper Championship is their ceiling and he's got many of them performing well above that, even with the mistakes.
Clarke, Emersonn, Ouattara could potentially be. Leaving us with Lukic, Diop, Palacios and Enciso. 3 out of the 32. 6 if you count potential.
If O'Neil keeps this squad up, he will have earned his money and so far he is. | |
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| GON record with Wolves on 20:19 - Nov 10 | rgp1 |
| GON record with Wolves on 14:27 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
We don't have a Premier League squad though... Walton, Palmer, Sherpen, Davis, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Fatawu, Taylor, Azor, Nunez, Florentino, Egeli, Jaden, McAteer, Maeda, Mehmeti, Fleming and Akpom are not Premier League level players. Would anyone bar Hull and Coventry take most of these in their squad? Upper Championship is their ceiling and he's got many of them performing well above that, even with the mistakes.
Clarke, Emersonn, Ouattara could potentially be. Leaving us with Lukic, Diop, Palacios and Enciso. 3 out of the 32. 6 if you count potential.
If O'Neil keeps this squad up, he will have earned his money and so far he is. |
Good points but one fly in the ointment here. Didn't Ashton say we were on the limit of FFP at the end of the window? If that is the case how do we fund replacements for some of the 'championship' players in the event that we need to strengthen the squad? In addition, will any bloodletting at Citeh be a warning shot for others to behave on finances. [Post edited 10 Nov 20:19]
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| GON record with Wolves on 08:08 - Nov 11 | muccletonjoe |
| GON record with Wolves on 14:27 - Nov 10 by ITFC_Essex |
We don't have a Premier League squad though... Walton, Palmer, Sherpen, Davis, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Fatawu, Taylor, Azor, Nunez, Florentino, Egeli, Jaden, McAteer, Maeda, Mehmeti, Fleming and Akpom are not Premier League level players. Would anyone bar Hull and Coventry take most of these in their squad? Upper Championship is their ceiling and he's got many of them performing well above that, even with the mistakes.
Clarke, Emersonn, Ouattara could potentially be. Leaving us with Lukic, Diop, Palacios and Enciso. 3 out of the 32. 6 if you count potential.
If O'Neil keeps this squad up, he will have earned his money and so far he is. |
I think that is a fair assessment, we are going to find points hard to come by with the system we adopt . I think more discussions will be coming up on here about the manager in the week's ahead. |  | | |
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