| Kanye West 14:28 - Mar 31 with 3261 views | GlasgowBlue |
is set to headline all three nights of Wireless festival this year, here in the UK.
I assume every anti racist will be boycotting these concerts. |  |
| |  |
| Kanye West on 18:38 - Mar 31 with 990 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Kanye West on 18:14 - Mar 31 by positivity |
clearly a very damaged individual, the apology appears to be a start, but i think we have to see whether it's a genuine change before he gets reintegrated to this extent... |
He has a history of apologising for his antisemitism. It usually coincides with a new album release. He then reverts to type.
I don't believe there should be any way back for somebody who has such a long history of racism, which includes but is not exclusive to:
Saying he was "going death con 3" on Jewish people
Claiming that he was being targeted by a "Jewish Underground Media Mafia"
Saying "There's a lot of things that I love about Hitler; a lot of things", "I like Hitler", and "I am a Nazi". He also stated that "we got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time", "the Jewish media has made us feel like the Nazis and Hitler have never offered anything of value to the world", and "my accounts have been frozen by the Jewish banks".
Engaged in Holocaust denial. Several times.
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
Put up for sale a white T-shirt featuring a black swastika on his Yeezy.com website. The shirt was labeled "HH-01", a reference to "Heil Hitler".
Said that his upcoming album would have "that antisemitic sound" and again confirmed he was a nazi.
Released a song called "Heil Hitler", featuring lyrics such as "Nigga Heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on Twitter, all my niggas Nazis, nigga Heil Hitler." | |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:51 - Mar 31 with 972 views | vapour_trail |
| Kanye West on 18:38 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
He has a history of apologising for his antisemitism. It usually coincides with a new album release. He then reverts to type.
I don't believe there should be any way back for somebody who has such a long history of racism, which includes but is not exclusive to:
Saying he was "going death con 3" on Jewish people
Claiming that he was being targeted by a "Jewish Underground Media Mafia"
Saying "There's a lot of things that I love about Hitler; a lot of things", "I like Hitler", and "I am a Nazi". He also stated that "we got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time", "the Jewish media has made us feel like the Nazis and Hitler have never offered anything of value to the world", and "my accounts have been frozen by the Jewish banks".
Engaged in Holocaust denial. Several times.
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
Put up for sale a white T-shirt featuring a black swastika on his Yeezy.com website. The shirt was labeled "HH-01", a reference to "Heil Hitler".
Said that his upcoming album would have "that antisemitic sound" and again confirmed he was a nazi.
Released a song called "Heil Hitler", featuring lyrics such as "Nigga Heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on Twitter, all my niggas Nazis, nigga Heil Hitler." |
Sorry, what’s your point?
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
He’s massively misogynistic as well.
My boy loved his music when he got into hip hop. It’s taken a lot of patience to work through that. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:56 - Mar 31 with 959 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Kanye West on 18:51 - Mar 31 by vapour_trail |
Sorry, what’s your point?
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
He’s massively misogynistic as well.
My boy loved his music when he got into hip hop. It’s taken a lot of patience to work through that. |
My point is that Ye shouldn't be anywhere near a music festival in this country. Let alone headlining it. The people who organise Wireless should hang their heads in shame and imo Melvin Benn, the managing director of Festival Republic, should resign or be sacked. | |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:58 - Mar 31 with 951 views | vapour_trail |
| Kanye West on 18:56 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
My point is that Ye shouldn't be anywhere near a music festival in this country. Let alone headlining it. The people who organise Wireless should hang their heads in shame and imo Melvin Benn, the managing director of Festival Republic, should resign or be sacked. |
Sorry that was in jest. It was obvious what your point was given what you’d set out. Apologies. | |
| |
| Kanye West on 19:01 - Mar 31 with 936 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Kanye West on 18:58 - Mar 31 by vapour_trail |
Sorry that was in jest. It was obvious what your point was given what you’d set out. Apologies. |
No need to apologise. Humour doesn't always translate very well when written rather than said in person. | |
| |
| Kanye West on 20:21 - Mar 31 with 891 views | positivity |
| Kanye West on 18:38 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
He has a history of apologising for his antisemitism. It usually coincides with a new album release. He then reverts to type.
I don't believe there should be any way back for somebody who has such a long history of racism, which includes but is not exclusive to:
Saying he was "going death con 3" on Jewish people
Claiming that he was being targeted by a "Jewish Underground Media Mafia"
Saying "There's a lot of things that I love about Hitler; a lot of things", "I like Hitler", and "I am a Nazi". He also stated that "we got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time", "the Jewish media has made us feel like the Nazis and Hitler have never offered anything of value to the world", and "my accounts have been frozen by the Jewish banks".
Engaged in Holocaust denial. Several times.
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
Put up for sale a white T-shirt featuring a black swastika on his Yeezy.com website. The shirt was labeled "HH-01", a reference to "Heil Hitler".
Said that his upcoming album would have "that antisemitic sound" and again confirmed he was a nazi.
Released a song called "Heil Hitler", featuring lyrics such as "Nigga Heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on Twitter, all my niggas Nazis, nigga Heil Hitler." |
not condoning him at all, but he was at the peak of his trumpism & antisemitism mania when he promoted his last (diabolical in every sense of the word) album and has since claimed he was mentally ill.
could well be crocodile tears, and not a genuine apology.
can you ever be forgiven when you've said that kind of stuff, i know lennon and bowie have said some dreadful stuff, apologised and been rehabilitated, but this is a different level? |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 20:38 - Mar 31 with 854 views | ZedRodgers |
| Kanye West on 18:38 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
He has a history of apologising for his antisemitism. It usually coincides with a new album release. He then reverts to type.
I don't believe there should be any way back for somebody who has such a long history of racism, which includes but is not exclusive to:
Saying he was "going death con 3" on Jewish people
Claiming that he was being targeted by a "Jewish Underground Media Mafia"
Saying "There's a lot of things that I love about Hitler; a lot of things", "I like Hitler", and "I am a Nazi". He also stated that "we got to stop dissing the Nazis all the time", "the Jewish media has made us feel like the Nazis and Hitler have never offered anything of value to the world", and "my accounts have been frozen by the Jewish banks".
Engaged in Holocaust denial. Several times.
Featured the line in one of his songs "How I'm antisemitic? I just fcuked a Jewish bitch"
Put up for sale a white T-shirt featuring a black swastika on his Yeezy.com website. The shirt was labeled "HH-01", a reference to "Heil Hitler".
Said that his upcoming album would have "that antisemitic sound" and again confirmed he was a nazi.
Released a song called "Heil Hitler", featuring lyrics such as "Nigga Heil Hitler, they don't understand the things I say on Twitter, all my niggas Nazis, nigga Heil Hitler." |
Quoting those HH lyrics verbatim isn't really necessary. I don’t think any white man should be using that word, even when referencing. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 20:58 - Mar 31 with 844 views | BlueBadger |
| Kanye West on 14:37 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
Without checking who is playing I’m going to assume that none of them have pushed antisemitic conspiracy theories and Hitler worship? |
Gun's N Roses were big on the old homophobia and racism, back in the day. |  |
| |
Login to get fewer ads
| Kanye West on 08:34 - Apr 3 with 682 views | DJR |
Good article in the Guardian which mentions that Australia refused entry to West.
https://www.theguardian.com/co
In my view it would be appropriate to refuse him entry to the UK on the basis that his presence here would not be conducive to the public good.
This is permitted under this provision of the Immigration Rules.
"An application for entry clearance or permission must be refused where the applicant’s presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good because of their conduct, character, associations or other reasons (including convictions which do not fall within the criminality grounds)."
There is guidance on this, and these are the relevant provisions of it.
"A person’s presence may be non-conducive to the public good for a range of reasons – for example because of reprehensible behaviour falling short of a conviction, or because their identity, travel history or other circumstances means that their presence in the UK poses a threat to UK society. A person does not need to have a criminal conviction to be refused admission on non-conducive grounds.
Many types of offending or reprehensible behaviour can mean that an individual’s presence in the UK would not be conducive to the public good and many factors will weigh into this such as:
the nature and seriousness of the behaviour
the level of difficulty we could experience in the UK because of admitting the person with that behaviour
the frequency of the behaviour" |  | | |
| Kanye West on 10:42 - Apr 3 with 626 views | WeWereZombies |
| Kanye West on 18:56 - Mar 31 by GlasgowBlue |
My point is that Ye shouldn't be anywhere near a music festival in this country. Let alone headlining it. The people who organise Wireless should hang their heads in shame and imo Melvin Benn, the managing director of Festival Republic, should resign or be sacked. |
Speaking as someone who briefly met Melvin Benn many years ago and who also has only been to Latitude once because back in 2007 (or maybe 2006) Festival Republic (sic) made such a lash up of the organisation I can support your suggestion but feel it has come decades too late. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 17:52 - Apr 5 with 534 views | Churchman |
I see Pepsi have now pulled their sponsorship of the event. And rightly so.
He should not be allowed in the country. |  | | |
| Kanye West on 17:59 - Apr 5 with 527 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Kanye West on 17:52 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
I see Pepsi have now pulled their sponsorship of the event. And rightly so.
He should not be allowed in the country. |
Excellent news. | |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:04 - Apr 5 with 511 views | Mullet |
The footage of him and Lauryn Hill from LA is incredible. She sounds amazing, and it's an eye catching show but he's a million miles from the bloke who put the College Dropout together.
Seeing them both together on stage leaves me really conflicted. There are so many artists who are horrible people/messed up people/ whatever you want to call it, that debate of separating the art and artist always comes up.
I couldn't support someone like Kanye these days, and in a way it's sad Hill is but she's had her own history of problems so maybe it's a birds of a fether thing? I don't think he should be here playing a festival and making money and I'm not sure Starmer saying so helps much either. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:04 - Apr 5 with 510 views | J2BLUE |
| Kanye West on 17:52 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
I see Pepsi have now pulled their sponsorship of the event. And rightly so.
He should not be allowed in the country. |
Respect to them. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 18:10 - Apr 5 with 486 views | Churchman |
| Kanye West on 18:04 - Apr 5 by Mullet |
The footage of him and Lauryn Hill from LA is incredible. She sounds amazing, and it's an eye catching show but he's a million miles from the bloke who put the College Dropout together.
Seeing them both together on stage leaves me really conflicted. There are so many artists who are horrible people/messed up people/ whatever you want to call it, that debate of separating the art and artist always comes up.
I couldn't support someone like Kanye these days, and in a way it's sad Hill is but she's had her own history of problems so maybe it's a birds of a fether thing? I don't think he should be here playing a festival and making money and I'm not sure Starmer saying so helps much either. |
He’s an anti semitic bigot. Keep him out. | | | |
| Kanye West on 21:25 - Apr 5 with 405 views | pointofblue |
Diageo - behind Johnnie Walker whisky and Captain Morgan rum - has also withdrawn it's sponsorship of the festival. | |
| |
| Kanye West on 21:32 - Apr 5 with 394 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Kanye West on 20:58 - Mar 31 by BlueBadger |
Gun's N Roses were big on the old homophobia and racism, back in the day. |
As false equivalences go, even that’s quite a leap. There’s a lot of difference between one problematic song that band members were split over and a guy saying ‘I’m a Nazi and I don’t actually regret my former antisemitic views’. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 22:17 - Apr 5 with 352 views | WeWereZombies |
| Kanye West on 18:10 - Apr 5 by Churchman |
He’s an anti semitic bigot. Keep him out. |
Well I've heard Starmer called a lot of things but that's a new one to me... | |
| |
| Kanye West on 22:33 - Apr 5 with 333 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Kanye West on 21:25 - Apr 5 by pointofblue |
Diageo - behind Johnnie Walker whisky and Captain Morgan rum - has also withdrawn it's sponsorship of the festival. |
But nothing from the organisers. Are they using the same PR company as Mark Ashton? | |
| |
| Kanye West on 00:11 - Apr 6 with 289 views | baxterbasics |
Fun Kanye fact.
When he got cancelled by Adidas, it was widely reported he'd rocked up at a rival footwear HQ in California, unannounced and uninvited, in an attempt to get a deal (or just a poor effort publicity stunt perhaps). He was promptly escorted off the premises.
I happen to work for that same footwear company, and it was my manager (at the time) who saw the entourage rock up and reported it to security. He didn't realise who it was though until after the fact. |  |
| |
| Kanye West on 00:13 - Apr 6 with 284 views | WeWereZombies |
| Kanye West on 00:11 - Apr 6 by baxterbasics |
Fun Kanye fact.
When he got cancelled by Adidas, it was widely reported he'd rocked up at a rival footwear HQ in California, unannounced and uninvited, in an attempt to get a deal (or just a poor effort publicity stunt perhaps). He was promptly escorted off the premises.
I happen to work for that same footwear company, and it was my manager (at the time) who saw the entourage rock up and reported it to security. He didn't realise who it was though until after the fact. |
And Clarks has never been the same since... | |
| |
| Kanye West on 08:10 - Apr 6 with 217 views | tcblue |
I don't know if it's entirely possible to be in a position here to throw stones out of a greenhouse.
I'm not going to Wireless, and I can take or leave Ye's music so it's easy to 'boycott' him, but I look at what I do listen to and there's quite a lot of controversy, including known racists (Layla is a banger tho), woman beaters (yeah but Imagine), paedophiles (Suffragette City is great) etc etc etc
For clarity, this is not a pro Kanye post | | | |
| Kanye West on 09:43 - Apr 6 with 159 views | DJR |
| Kanye West on 08:10 - Apr 6 by tcblue |
I don't know if it's entirely possible to be in a position here to throw stones out of a greenhouse.
I'm not going to Wireless, and I can take or leave Ye's music so it's easy to 'boycott' him, but I look at what I do listen to and there's quite a lot of controversy, including known racists (Layla is a banger tho), woman beaters (yeah but Imagine), paedophiles (Suffragette City is great) etc etc etc
For clarity, this is not a pro Kanye post |
I don't think it's a free (or distasteful) speech/music issue.
Instead, he is a US citizen and there are grounds for refusing entry to a person if their presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good.
It seems to me that there are grounds in his case because his utterances/music has gone well beyond the average controversial musician.
And by way of precedent, people have been prevented from entering the UK on those grounds due to antisemitic, anti-Muslim and homophobic views.
I am inclined to think that the loss of sponsors will end up in his being dropped by the festival but if not, and given Starmer has pronounced on it, I would be surprised if the Home Office do not intervene to prevent his visit. [Post edited 6 Apr 9:43]
| | | |
| Kanye West on 10:41 - Apr 6 with 130 views | tcblue |
| Kanye West on 09:43 - Apr 6 by DJR |
I don't think it's a free (or distasteful) speech/music issue.
Instead, he is a US citizen and there are grounds for refusing entry to a person if their presence in the UK is not conducive to the public good.
It seems to me that there are grounds in his case because his utterances/music has gone well beyond the average controversial musician.
And by way of precedent, people have been prevented from entering the UK on those grounds due to antisemitic, anti-Muslim and homophobic views.
I am inclined to think that the loss of sponsors will end up in his being dropped by the festival but if not, and given Starmer has pronounced on it, I would be surprised if the Home Office do not intervene to prevent his visit. [Post edited 6 Apr 9:43]
|
I don't disagree with any of that.
But it's still strange that we (well, society) are ready to set bars. Proud Rihanna beater Chris Brown is on tour in the UK this year, for example. Haven't heard much about that.
My point is, I guess, much like Glassers pointed out (but perhaps not the same perspective) in the OP, where do we draw these lines, without knowing (or unknowing) hypocrisy? | | | |
| Kanye West on 10:50 - Apr 6 with 107 views | wischip |
He's not a patch on Vanilla Ice. |  | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
