| Maybe its just me 16:48 - Aug 28 with 1994 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
But some of these Clarke rumours.
Stoke apparently want him on loan with an option. Apart from the fact I can't see Clarke wanting to drop back to the Championship.
I'm not sure these people know how much that option to buy is likely to be. |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 16:49 - Aug 28 with 1950 views | ITFC_Forever |
There’s no way on this earth he’d go there. |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:02 - Aug 28 with 1785 views | MK1 |
| Maybe its just me on 16:49 - Aug 28 by ITFC_Forever |
There’s no way on this earth he’d go there. |
Never say never. I said we had no chance of signing Palacios. |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:15 - Aug 28 with 1671 views | FrimleyBlue |
If we allow Clarke to leave then that means we have one hell of a left side player coming to rotate with Maeda who can also play the 10 role |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:18 - Aug 28 with 1625 views | MK1 |
| Maybe its just me on 17:15 - Aug 28 by FrimleyBlue |
If we allow Clarke to leave then that means we have one hell of a left side player coming to rotate with Maeda who can also play the 10 role |
We have philogene | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:20 - Aug 28 with 1600 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Maybe its just me on 17:18 - Aug 28 by MK1 |
We have philogene |
Depends when he's back tho, he's quite far behind in fitness prior to recent injury too | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:21 - Aug 28 with 1597 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Maybe its just me on 17:15 - Aug 28 by FrimleyBlue |
If we allow Clarke to leave then that means we have one hell of a left side player coming to rotate with Maeda who can also play the 10 role |
Philogene is a great player. Philogene and Maeda are a quality 2 for that role.
It would be exceptionally harsh on Clarke and I hope he stays. Ultimately Clarke has so much to do to his game to start Premier League games though. He has to retain the ball so much better and improved his off the ball game. But he has really good strengths as well which can help us off the bench.
The squad we have put together though is fantastic. It RW we need another body. A shame Clarke couldn't make that side work a bit better. |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:22 - Aug 28 with 1580 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Maybe its just me on 17:02 - Aug 28 by MK1 |
Never say never. I said we had no chance of signing Palacios. |
I tried to tell you! |  |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:26 - Aug 28 with 1533 views | MK1 |
You did Sir. I was wrong to doubt you. I have learnt my lesson. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:31 - Aug 28 with 1497 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Maybe its just me on 17:26 - Aug 28 by MK1 |
You did Sir. I was wrong to doubt you. I have learnt my lesson. |
That is ok, it happens to a lot of people. Enjoy your weekend. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:31 - Aug 28 with 1497 views | Churchman |
| Maybe its just me on 17:21 - Aug 28 by Nutkins_Return |
Philogene is a great player. Philogene and Maeda are a quality 2 for that role.
It would be exceptionally harsh on Clarke and I hope he stays. Ultimately Clarke has so much to do to his game to start Premier League games though. He has to retain the ball so much better and improved his off the ball game. But he has really good strengths as well which can help us off the bench.
The squad we have put together though is fantastic. It RW we need another body. A shame Clarke couldn't make that side work a bit better. |
I think Clarke is a better player than you give him credit for. His control is fine. What he does is try things. Nothing wrong in that. He was exceptional last season and at times unplayable. Example - last 15 mins at Southampton where he very nearly won the game on his own.
He has the ability to find space in places the opposition doesn’t want and that happened time after time last season and again on Saturday. He made that goal look easy, but it really wasn’t.
Of him and Philogene I’d keep Clarke. They offer slightly different things but are at more or less the same level. JC though is able to stay fitter and is more flexible in how and where he plays in the side.
I hope we are able to retain them both, but I doubt that’s going to be possible.
As an aside, somebody who’s not been mentioned is Maeda. I thought he was excellent on Saturday. He was like a Duracell bunny going up and down that pitch and was a real pain in the rear end to Sunderland. Good player. |  | | |
| Maybe its just me on 17:33 - Aug 28 with 1476 views | billlm |
What a load |  | | |
| Maybe its just me on 17:33 - Aug 28 with 1467 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Maybe its just me on 17:31 - Aug 28 by Churchman |
I think Clarke is a better player than you give him credit for. His control is fine. What he does is try things. Nothing wrong in that. He was exceptional last season and at times unplayable. Example - last 15 mins at Southampton where he very nearly won the game on his own.
He has the ability to find space in places the opposition doesn’t want and that happened time after time last season and again on Saturday. He made that goal look easy, but it really wasn’t.
Of him and Philogene I’d keep Clarke. They offer slightly different things but are at more or less the same level. JC though is able to stay fitter and is more flexible in how and where he plays in the side.
I hope we are able to retain them both, but I doubt that’s going to be possible.
As an aside, somebody who’s not been mentioned is Maeda. I thought he was excellent on Saturday. He was like a Duracell bunny going up and down that pitch and was a real pain in the rear end to Sunderland. Good player. |
he was fab, like tabb, but higher quality and faster, annoying ankle biter
he was so close to a goal imo, needed to hold position for that Emmerson header that came across him, not his fault mind you, just the difference of a couple of seconds. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:34 - Aug 28 with 1463 views | billlm |
| Maybe its just me on 17:18 - Aug 28 by MK1 |
We have philogene |
Made of glass, injury record for us isn't great, | | | |
| Maybe its just me on 17:36 - Aug 28 with 1455 views | MK1 |
| Maybe its just me on 17:31 - Aug 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
That is ok, it happens to a lot of people. Enjoy your weekend. |
I have marked you as the bright spark of this board. I use to think Frimley was the smartest, but you now have that title. Enjoy you weekend also Sir. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:42 - Aug 28 with 1424 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Maybe its just me on 17:31 - Aug 28 by Churchman |
I think Clarke is a better player than you give him credit for. His control is fine. What he does is try things. Nothing wrong in that. He was exceptional last season and at times unplayable. Example - last 15 mins at Southampton where he very nearly won the game on his own.
He has the ability to find space in places the opposition doesn’t want and that happened time after time last season and again on Saturday. He made that goal look easy, but it really wasn’t.
Of him and Philogene I’d keep Clarke. They offer slightly different things but are at more or less the same level. JC though is able to stay fitter and is more flexible in how and where he plays in the side.
I hope we are able to retain them both, but I doubt that’s going to be possible.
As an aside, somebody who’s not been mentioned is Maeda. I thought he was excellent on Saturday. He was like a Duracell bunny going up and down that pitch and was a real pain in the rear end to Sunderland. Good player. |
That's just opinions.im really sorry but they aren't the same level (my opinion).
Philogene is a much better footballer technically. His manipulation of a football and how close he can keep it at speed and turn with it is significantly higher level than Clarke. He's also developed a lot more off the ball. He covers more ground and it's been alluded to by McKenna for example in the past how good he is at knocking the ball off people. Despite his size I think he is stronger than Clarke but debatable. Philogene can get a bit passive at times but a really high ceiling and could go to the top with the right application.
He strikes a much cleaner ball than Clarke and just overall a better technician.
It's not the whole argument. Clarke has a good temperament and has caused no headlines like Clarke (though broadly how he left Sunderland caused their fans annoyance as a lot of agent intervention).
I like Clarke and i rate him. As I say he has strengths and can help us but he isn't a starter at this level. He can improve and he can get his game there. His technique is very unothordox and looks like Bambi on ice sometimes but he uses that well a defenders struggle to read him.
A great luxury to have those 3 LW I think we can both agree on. 😂 | |
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| Maybe its just me on 17:43 - Aug 28 with 1414 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Maybe its just me on 17:36 - Aug 28 by MK1 |
I have marked you as the bright spark of this board. I use to think Frimley was the smartest, but you now have that title. Enjoy you weekend also Sir. |
I shall allow that for the weekend.
I shall win you back next week. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 18:10 - Aug 28 with 1287 views | MK1 |
| Maybe its just me on 17:43 - Aug 28 by FrimleyBlue |
I shall allow that for the weekend.
I shall win you back next week. |
Don't worry Frimley, I was only telling him that to shut him up. Keep it to yourself though. | |
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| Maybe its just me on 18:23 - Aug 28 with 1198 views | Churchman |
| Maybe its just me on 17:42 - Aug 28 by Nutkins_Return |
That's just opinions.im really sorry but they aren't the same level (my opinion).
Philogene is a much better footballer technically. His manipulation of a football and how close he can keep it at speed and turn with it is significantly higher level than Clarke. He's also developed a lot more off the ball. He covers more ground and it's been alluded to by McKenna for example in the past how good he is at knocking the ball off people. Despite his size I think he is stronger than Clarke but debatable. Philogene can get a bit passive at times but a really high ceiling and could go to the top with the right application.
He strikes a much cleaner ball than Clarke and just overall a better technician.
It's not the whole argument. Clarke has a good temperament and has caused no headlines like Clarke (though broadly how he left Sunderland caused their fans annoyance as a lot of agent intervention).
I like Clarke and i rate him. As I say he has strengths and can help us but he isn't a starter at this level. He can improve and he can get his game there. His technique is very unothordox and looks like Bambi on ice sometimes but he uses that well a defenders struggle to read him.
A great luxury to have those 3 LW I think we can both agree on. 😂 |
Opinions are fun!
JP might hit a cleaner ball, but the name of the game is hitting the target and Clarke is good at that. He knows how to finish. He might or might not be stronger than Clarke but fitness wise he certainly isn’t. JP has lost a lot of time with injury and that matters.
Compared to most of the players of the past 20 years, it feels unreal to debate players of the quality we have now. | | | |
| Maybe its just me on 18:31 - Aug 28 with 1144 views | MK1 |
| Maybe its just me on 18:23 - Aug 28 by Churchman |
Opinions are fun!
JP might hit a cleaner ball, but the name of the game is hitting the target and Clarke is good at that. He knows how to finish. He might or might not be stronger than Clarke but fitness wise he certainly isn’t. JP has lost a lot of time with injury and that matters.
Compared to most of the players of the past 20 years, it feels unreal to debate players of the quality we have now. |
I would keep Clarke and sell Philogene. (If I had to sell either) | |
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| Maybe its just me on 08:49 - Aug 29 with 549 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Maybe its just me on 18:23 - Aug 28 by Churchman |
Opinions are fun!
JP might hit a cleaner ball, but the name of the game is hitting the target and Clarke is good at that. He knows how to finish. He might or might not be stronger than Clarke but fitness wise he certainly isn’t. JP has lost a lot of time with injury and that matters.
Compared to most of the players of the past 20 years, it feels unreal to debate players of the quality we have now. |
I can agree with all of that.
I.would be sad to lose Clarke and right now anyway as you say he is fit and Philogene isn't. I think we keep them both and leave that decision for a year!
Clarke can go on to be a bit of cult hero. He's got that 'something different' about him. They both had to be fair. | |
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