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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. 00:16 - Oct 13 with 12466 views

… In Brexit. And that Burnham is lying. When it’s proven they did.

What impact their social media influence - on scale - caused to the Leave vote is of course open to interpretation.

BUT - what is now emerging is that Ukraine have now bombed Russian server farms. And the level of Trump promoting accounts have significantly diminished.

It’s almost like our biggest security threat - Putin - is pro Trump/Reform.

It’s almost like Reform are bad for the UK?!

Letting that dangerous idiot into our club to use our brand remains a stain.

[Post edited 13 Oct 12:07]

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 13:45 - Oct 15 with 1226 views

MattinLondon

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 12:46 - Oct 15 by grow_our_own
Yeh I took three ibuprofen instead of my usual two once and then found myself chest-deep in the English Channel deflating RNLI boats with a knife. If only I'd read the small-print in the side-effects list! [Post edited 15 Oct 12:48]

Ibuprofen you say…well. I once took Codeine for a sprained ankle and ended up at a Reform conference where I hit some woman over the head with one of my Crutches. Think I got away with it though as Nigel didn’t see it.

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 13:58 - Oct 15 with 1175 views

grow_our_own

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 13:45 - Oct 15 by MattinLondon
Ibuprofen you say…well. I once took Codeine for a sprained ankle and ended up at a Reform conference where I hit some woman over the head with one of my Crutches. Think I got away with it though as Nigel didn’t see it.

I accidentally took a second "one a day" anti-histamine. Found myself promoting a racist political party in my "community" football club. Drug regulators really need to do a better job warning of these adverse reactions to pharmaceuticals!

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 15:40 - Oct 15 with 1070 views

EdwardStone

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 13:58 - Oct 15 by grow_our_own
I accidentally took a second "one a day" anti-histamine. Found myself promoting a racist political party in my "community" football club. Drug regulators really need to do a better job warning of these adverse reactions to pharmaceuticals!

That's nothing.....

More than a few years ago my Grandfather took some nightnurse just before bedtime

When he woke up, we found that he had annexed the Sudetenland

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 16:26 - Oct 15 with 1017 views

MattinLondon

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 15:40 - Oct 15 by EdwardStone
That's nothing..... More than a few years ago my Grandfather took some nightnurse just before bedtime When he woke up, we found that he had annexed the Sudetenland

Nightnurse….lightweight.

My then one year old had 5ml of Calpol and ended up being the driver for some charlatan. He then said something racist and some old fella let him park on his drive.

Unbelievable.

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 16:36 - Oct 15 with 991 views

Dubtractor

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 15:40 - Oct 15 by EdwardStone
That's nothing..... More than a few years ago my Grandfather took some nightnurse just before bedtime When he woke up, we found that he had annexed the Sudetenland

I double dropped some sudafed the other day, and a few hours later I came round and found myself wearing white robes and a hood.

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naa

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 09:33 - Oct 13 by trncbluearmy
Use to not anymore destroyed by left wing policies

You do realise that the country has been run by right wing governments for the majority of the last 80 years don't you?

And Blair's government was not very left leaning at all.

So, who has been putting in all these lefty policies of which you speak?

I mean current small boats problem was mostly caused by us leaving the EU. Farage doesn't mention that too much though does he?

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:04 - Oct 15 with 934 views

BlueBoots

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 16:26 - Oct 15 by MattinLondon
Nightnurse….lightweight. My then one year old had 5ml of Calpol and ended up being the driver for some charlatan. He then said something racist and some old fella let him park on his drive. Unbelievable.

Last week, a bloke I know covered himself from head to toe in Vicks VapoRub, and ended up in Brixton confronting dangerous criminals and disarming them of bottles of pop. Locals were shouting that he was completely menthol, but he wouldn't listen.

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:20 - Oct 15 with 911 views

WeWereZombies

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:04 - Oct 15 by BlueBoots
Last week, a bloke I know covered himself from head to toe in Vicks VapoRub, and ended up in Brixton confronting dangerous criminals and disarming them of bottles of pop. Locals were shouting that he was completely menthol, but he wouldn't listen.

Yesterday I employed every single asylum seeker in the United Kingdom (on a cash in hand basis, obvs) and drove them to Paris to work as Galloways cough syrup salespeople. They've done a great job and it's cancelled our balance of payments deficit, in fact they can all afford ocean going yachts now.

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:43 - Oct 15 with 887 views

GlasgowBlue

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 09:00 - Oct 15 by Benters
He isn’t my King he’s a drip. [Post edited 16 Oct 4:30]

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:46 - Oct 15 with 870 views

DJR

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 12:29 - Oct 15 by balcombeblue
One of them claimed he was heavily medicated at the time. That's up there isn't it? What are the side effects of this medication doctor? In some case sir, it'll turn you into a racist. [Post edited 15 Oct 12:29]

Just imagine how extreme he would have been if he weren't on medication.

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 22:18 - Oct 15 with 701 views

Swansea_Blue

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 12:29 - Oct 14 by giant_stow
Seems as good a place as anywhere to put this: Looks like Trump has not only stopped at least some intelligence sharing, but that Musk is now restricting Starlink: Shame-free people.

The FT today had an article alleging that Trump’s team have been trying to persuade European countries to unfreeze Russian assets. Apparently a few options were suggested as possible mechanisms including handing them over to the US to ‘look after’. All under the supposed guise of getting Putin to the negotiating table.

As you say, shame-free people. I’d hesitate to call Trump a Russian asset in the traditional sense (spies/handlers, etc), but that’s probably neither here nor there anyway, as he certainly represents Russian interests ahead of Ukraine’s or other Europeans. He’s an asset to them even if not formally.

[Post edited 15 Oct 22:25]

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EdwardStone

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 22:18 - Oct 15 by Swansea_Blue

[Post edited 15 Oct 22:25]

Presumably the Russian money would be " Just Resting" in Trump's bank account....

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Benters

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 16:04 - Oct 13 by The_Flashing_Smile
I think you'll be waiting a long time for a reasoned response from Benters. He just hates Labour in the same way a football fan hates their rivals. Unfortunately he hasn't thought of a rhyme for Burnham like 'two tier Keir' yet.

I have but the outrage wouldn’t go down well.

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 04:29 - Oct 16 with 521 views

Benters

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 17:43 - Oct 15 by GlasgowBlue
GSTK! Defender of all the faiths.

GSTQ Now her id give my love to she was a beautiful Woman.

The King is a drip.

[Post edited 16 Oct 6:14]

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BanksterDebtSlave

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 04:29 - Oct 16 by Benters
GSTQ Now her id give my love to she was a beautiful Woman. The King is a drip. [Post edited 16 Oct 6:14]

You must have had repeated fat thumb syndrome on all those Bloots threads!
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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:18 - Oct 16 with 418 views

Benters

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:15 - Oct 16 by BanksterDebtSlave
You must have had repeated fat thumb syndrome on all those Bloots threads! https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/6

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:32 - Oct 16 with 394 views

WeWereZombies

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:18 - Oct 16 by Benters
Sitters in ! Ashton In !

King Charles III in...

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So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:48 - Oct 16 with 373 views

MattinLondon

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 04:29 - Oct 16 by Benters
GSTQ Now her id give my love to she was a beautiful Woman. The King is a drip. [Post edited 16 Oct 6:14]

You prefer monarchs who protect alleged nonces?

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:55 - Oct 16 with 352 views

Butterbing

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:18 - Oct 16 by Benters
Sitters in ! Ashton In !

Is this poster a bot? Just trolling relentlessly. If it isn’t a bot it’s rather pitiful that anyone has the time or energy for it.

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:19 - Oct 16 with 314 views

DJR

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 22:18 - Oct 15 by Swansea_Blue

[Post edited 15 Oct 22:25]

Yesterday's FT also had an interview with Marine Le Pen.

As well as proposing actions which could weaken the EU both politically and economically, she said that if elected President she would cut aid to Ukraine within 6 months. She is also opposed to Ukraine joining the EU and is sceptical about Russian sanctions not least because of their effect on energy supplies to Europe.

She also hoped her victory would give a boost to nationalist parties in other European countries.

So we could be looking at a completely different EU in the next few years, perhaps leaving as the only hope the election of a Democrat President when Trump stands down.

Indeed, this may well be a distinct possibility suggesting we shouldn't assume (as some have) that the US is lost for good.

[Post edited 16 Oct 8:45]

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:37 - Oct 16 with 274 views

Churchman

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 07:55 - Oct 16 by Butterbing
Is this poster a bot? Just trolling relentlessly. If it isn’t a bot it’s rather pitiful that anyone has the time or energy for it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I doubt describing somebody as ‘it’ is something you’d say to their face. There’s an ignore button to use if you don’t want to see what another poster has to say.

As for King Charles, whilst I’ve seen him up close a few times, I’ve never spoken to him; don’t know him. but I’ve never been in favour of a monarchy and I am still not. Nothing personal, but the concept of a head of state just because they are born to somebody else (or in some cases related) has always seemed wrong.

Yes, Republics can produce people like Trump, but that’s an issue of constitution, not principle.

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:38 - Oct 16 with 268 views

balcombeblue

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:19 - Oct 16 by DJR

[Post edited 16 Oct 8:45]

Honestly, looking at where Europe is heading over the next 10 years, it feels like member states are starting to look out increasingly for themselves.

The EU just doesn't offer the kind of economic or political flexibility that countries need when things get tough. Between skyrocketing energy costs, a completely changing job market, and growing foreign threats, governments are realising they have to fix their own balance sheets and protect their own people first.

On top of that, look at the political reality: trying to get any collective EU deals done when you have to negotiate with the likes of Le Pen or the AfD is a logistical nightmare. It's less about 'European unity' now and much more about national survival. Frankly, given how restrictive the system is and how fractured politics have become, the idea of any country rejoining or pushing for closer alignment right now is completely crazy.

Don't despair about the US.It's the last hope I have really! The US has grown 2.5%ish per annum over the last 10 years compared to European stagnation. If there was a more sensible (to put it mildly) president in the White House that is some prosperity to latch onto.

There are lots of reasons that this growth disparity exists which are well worth exploring. But of course, it means access to capital is far easier in the US than in the EUs fragmented system.

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DJR

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:38 - Oct 16 by balcombeblue

Whilst he might be trying to suggest it (not least for popularity), I don't think Burnham has any intention of re-joining.

At best he is looking at the removal of certain trade barriers but even on that the EU is not in practical terms necessarily playing ball despite all the fine words.

And as I have said on here before, I am not sure I would want to join a club where the AfD and National Rally were in the driving seat.

[Post edited 16 Oct 8:57]

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balcombeblue

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:55 - Oct 16 by DJR

[Post edited 16 Oct 8:57]

Agree on that, which of course is very sensible. Would be nice if he was clearer in the way he expresses that.

There is becoming less and less to align to and it's only going to get more isolationist.

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DJR

So the ‘visitor’ to our FOOTBALL club claims Russia didn’t interfere…. on 08:58 - Oct 16 by balcombeblue
Agree on that, which of course is very sensible. Would be nice if he was clearer in the way he expresses that. There is becoming less and less to align to and it's only going to get more isolationist.

I think the ambiguity is deliberate in order to win over Remainers who might have slipped away to the Greens or Lib Dems.

But at the same time is has its dangers because it could fire up the vote for those opposed to the EU which still makes up maybe around 46% in polling, if one combines the votes of the Tories and Reform.

And there is always the danger, if Reform continue to falter, that they will enter into some sort of alliance with the Tories based at least in part on opposition to the EU if Burnham pushes this too far

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