| Burnham wins Makerfield 03:11 - Jun 19 with 4777 views | Ryorry |
Good majority, about 9K votes. |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:19 - Jun 19 with 782 views | Benters |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 06:55 - Jun 19 by jayessess |
What's wrong with council estates? |
Nothing look at me.
Next up what’s up with Gingers? |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:22 - Jun 19 with 793 views | jayessess |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:14 - Jun 19 by vapour_trail |
God, no, we’d have been having an election every ten minutes for the past decade.
I don’t want to have to go and vote every time my lettuce goes past its use by date. |
When we voted for an MP we delegated the responsibility for choosing the prime minister to them, it's part of the gig. |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 with 775 views | MJallday |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 07:25 - Jun 19 by Zx1988 |
It's rather telling when you use the other contenders' names, and then choose to refer to Rayner as 'that ginger Council estate one'. |
Ok well if it helps you I dislike her for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
I do not dislike her for
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I hope that clarifies |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 with 760 views | Benters |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 07:22 - Jun 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Only if you're a ginger woman! |
Actually some are very attractive look at Izzie Balmer from Bargain Hunt. | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:26 - Jun 19 with 766 views | StokieBlue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Ok well if it helps you I dislike her for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
I do not dislike her for
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I hope that clarifies |
Why did you say it then?
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:27 - Jun 19 with 747 views | MJallday |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:11 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
Did you say the same for the all the times the Tories changed leader?
It's always been this way, you vote for a party not a leader, it's not a presidential system.
"ginger council estate one"
Stay classy.
SB [Post edited 19 Jun 8:25]
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Actually yes
It was bloody stupid. We had a new PM every 2 weeks
Politics needs complete overhaul in this country. From the voting system, to Parliament representation models to the civil service
The current system is broken and does not represent a modern society IMO | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:28 - Jun 19 with 741 views | Perublue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:14 - Jun 19 by vapour_trail |
God, no, we’d have been having an election every ten minutes for the past decade.
I don’t want to have to go and vote every time my lettuce goes past its use by date. |
Although it seems to have calmed down a bit in recent years the Italians were constantly changing prime minister due to their coalition government’s.. how anything got sorted there I don’t know but maybe the machine of government kept moving… much like Peru famously 10 president’s or so in the last decade but the economy and growth the best in Latin America.
One thing that does bug me about Starmer and to be fair there’s not many he seems like a genuinely nice guy… just a bit crap at PM and politics .. is when he goes on about his mandate … 1. It’s the parties mandate and 2.it’s mandate gained mainly by the tories even if you love them having lost any right for another term for so many reasons least of all time for a change. [Post edited 19 Jun 8:32]
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:28 - Jun 19 with 739 views | StokieBlue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:27 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Actually yes
It was bloody stupid. We had a new PM every 2 weeks
Politics needs complete overhaul in this country. From the voting system, to Parliament representation models to the civil service
The current system is broken and does not represent a modern society IMO |
Fair enough if you're consistent on the point, however as it stands this is the way it is.
Certainly a case for electoral reform.
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:32 - Jun 19 with 726 views | baxterbasics |
Pretty comprehensive. Does suggest Reform may have peaked, whether you lean right or not I think people are noticing they are not fit or ready for power. Although the argument that a lot of people voted Burnham who wouldn't normally vote Labour probably has some credence too.
I wonder which Burnham will eventually become PM - the Blairite version who improved Manchester by offering regulation and tax breaks to encourage private investment, or the Burnham that said wants to nationalise most of the economy and regulate what is left into the ground. Because booo Thatcher, or something. |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:34 - Jun 19 with 702 views | vapour_trail |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Ok well if it helps you I dislike her for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
I do not dislike her for
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I hope that clarifies |
It is helpful for your clarification because in your earlier post you didn’t mention your dislike for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
In fact, all you referenced was
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I’m sure you can see why people thought that was a bellend move . |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:36 - Jun 19 with 693 views | MJallday |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:26 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
Why did you say it then?
SB |
Comedic effect | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:36 - Jun 19 with 677 views | Benters |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Ok well if it helps you I dislike her for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
I do not dislike her for
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I hope that clarifies |
It’s an uppie from me 👍 | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:38 - Jun 19 with 681 views | MJallday |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:34 - Jun 19 by vapour_trail |
It is helpful for your clarification because in your earlier post you didn’t mention your dislike for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
In fact, all you referenced was
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I’m sure you can see why people thought that was a bellend move . |
Clearly people have read far too Much into it that was intended
I can certainly see how that’s happened . Unfortunately my comedic tone hasn’t come
Accross
Still - At least I didn’t say I love farage - so that’s a positive ? | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:38 - Jun 19 with 681 views | Perublue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:32 - Jun 19 by baxterbasics |
Pretty comprehensive. Does suggest Reform may have peaked, whether you lean right or not I think people are noticing they are not fit or ready for power. Although the argument that a lot of people voted Burnham who wouldn't normally vote Labour probably has some credence too.
I wonder which Burnham will eventually become PM - the Blairite version who improved Manchester by offering regulation and tax breaks to encourage private investment, or the Burnham that said wants to nationalise most of the economy and regulate what is left into the ground. Because booo Thatcher, or something. |
It’s quite the tightrope he’s going’s to potentially need to tackle… too far or even the suggestion of it either way he’ll lose anybody still left but the centrists and they may end up themselves going into some alliance with the lib dems… or even the tories. | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:40 - Jun 19 with 660 views | Benters |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:38 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Clearly people have read far too Much into it that was intended
I can certainly see how that’s happened . Unfortunately my comedic tone hasn’t come
Accross
Still - At least I didn’t say I love farage - so that’s a positive ? |
Don’t spoil it I was going to buy you a pint in da fan zone .. | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:55 - Jun 19 with 623 views | eireblue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 07:41 - Jun 19 by Fixed_It |
Has Farage gone down the 'it was rigged' path yet? |
He is standing in a field on his own, asking for Restore voters to think again. |  | | |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:59 - Jun 19 with 601 views | Benters |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:36 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Comedic effect |
The Special Branch don’t do comedy buh! | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:00 - Jun 19 with 604 views | WeWereZombies |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:32 - Jun 19 by baxterbasics |
Pretty comprehensive. Does suggest Reform may have peaked, whether you lean right or not I think people are noticing they are not fit or ready for power. Although the argument that a lot of people voted Burnham who wouldn't normally vote Labour probably has some credence too.
I wonder which Burnham will eventually become PM - the Blairite version who improved Manchester by offering regulation and tax breaks to encourage private investment, or the Burnham that said wants to nationalise most of the economy and regulate what is left into the ground. Because booo Thatcher, or something. |
It will be another Burnham, because he has grown and matured as a politician. People do tend to change over the years as experiences happen and are reflected upon. The value of being mayor of Manchester will undoubtedly have value when it comes to being the Prime Minister of a state of four nations, much bigger job though and it will require a lot of adaptation on his part. But there is a precedent of the relatively new role of mayor of a major city in the United Kingdom becoming Prime Minister...
Oh feck. |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:02 - Jun 19 with 603 views | hype313 |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:32 - Jun 19 by baxterbasics |
Pretty comprehensive. Does suggest Reform may have peaked, whether you lean right or not I think people are noticing they are not fit or ready for power. Although the argument that a lot of people voted Burnham who wouldn't normally vote Labour probably has some credence too.
I wonder which Burnham will eventually become PM - the Blairite version who improved Manchester by offering regulation and tax breaks to encourage private investment, or the Burnham that said wants to nationalise most of the economy and regulate what is left into the ground. Because booo Thatcher, or something. |
They have shot themsleves in the foot by bringing in the likes of Jenrick, Braverman and Dorries, Farage is finally showing his true colours and people are waking up to the fact that he's a self serving charlatan. |  |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:12 - Jun 19 with 564 views | vilanovablue |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:02 - Jun 19 by hype313 |
They have shot themsleves in the foot by bringing in the likes of Jenrick, Braverman and Dorries, Farage is finally showing his true colours and people are waking up to the fact that he's a self serving charlatan. |
Poor performances in by-elections now that people have the chance to scrutinise a candidate and realise he is actually a pretty dodgy chap. With 3 more years of scrutiny you might think that Reform have got as far as they can. I think we may begin to see them slide in the polls, or at least I hope they do. |  | | |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:26 - Jun 19 with 525 views | Lamp |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:02 - Jun 19 by hype313 |
They have shot themsleves in the foot by bringing in the likes of Jenrick, Braverman and Dorries, Farage is finally showing his true colours and people are waking up to the fact that he's a self serving charlatan. |
The problem is they need experienced politicians as the cohort they manage to find that will stand in elections completely fall apart when under the smallest amount of scrutiny. |  | | |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:30 - Jun 19 with 501 views | hype313 |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:26 - Jun 19 by Lamp |
The problem is they need experienced politicians as the cohort they manage to find that will stand in elections completely fall apart when under the smallest amount of scrutiny. |
The Tories have got experienced politicians and got 900 votes last night. | |
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| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:38 - Jun 19 with 481 views | Lamp |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:30 - Jun 19 by hype313 |
The Tories have got experienced politicians and got 900 votes last night. |
But they also won a byelection in Aberdeen | | | |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:40 - Jun 19 with 475 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:27 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Actually yes
It was bloody stupid. We had a new PM every 2 weeks
Politics needs complete overhaul in this country. From the voting system, to Parliament representation models to the civil service
The current system is broken and does not represent a modern society IMO |
Burnham did suggest during the campaign that he'd introduce PR as soon as possible.
Arguably, the willingness of progressive voters to vote tactically makes it less important, though that becomes a gamble in a general election.
I was wondering if it might be worth trying to set up a Reform-lite party, with a Swiss-referendum-style limit on population, fir example, but just to split the right wing vote still further |  | | |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 09:42 - Jun 19 with 471 views | Blueschev |
| Burnham wins Makerfield on 08:25 - Jun 19 by MJallday |
Ok well if it helps you I dislike her for
Her politics
Her public persona
Her approach to decision making
Her continued refusal to engage with the rape gang enquiry’s
Her questionable tax records
I do not dislike her for
Her hair colour
Where she came from
I hope that clarifies |
Hopefully any future rape gang enquiry will highlight the contemptuous attitudes some people continue to hold towards working class white women. |  | | |
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